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Old 01-14-2015, 11:47 PM
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Default Bastimentos Froglet with deformity... anything I can do for him?

My very first Bastimentos froglets just emerged from the water. Two of them look healthy and are mobile, moving around their bromeliads. But the third one has one front leg that is thin and sticks up in the air. Is this SLS or some other deformity? He is moving around on his bromeliad leaf, but I have a hard time believing he will survive. Is there anything I can do to help him develop correctly? Or is he just doomed?
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Sounds like the classic SLS problem. We can better help with pictures. What supplements do you use?
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Thank you. I just started using Repashy 2 1/2 months ago. Daily dusting of fruit flies with Repashy Calcium Plus, and twice a month dusting of fruit flies with Repashy Vitamin A.

I can try to get pictures tomorrow, but I've been worried about disturbing the other two active froglets.
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Your supplementation most likely saved the other two from the same fate. More than likely the froglet with SLS got the benefits from the new supplements a tad bit late
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Thank you MWAInverts!
All 3 froglets emerged from the water within the same 24 hour period. Do you know why one froglet was affected and the other two weren't, if they developed at the same time?
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I'm no expert in any sense of this kind of thing but I'll venture a guess. Since you supplemented only recently, perhaps nutrients aren't delivered to developing clutches within the female equally. Or it could even be the poor guy just got some nutrient poor eggs to feed on. But it definitely seems the other two got very lucky!
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you definitely saved the other two by starting supplementation. If this continues you may want to separate the two of them and continue to supplement, this will allow them to bounce back to 100%, sometimes it takes longer then 2.5 months for their hormone levels to recover, depending on age and how long they went unsupplemented
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Put him alone in a small container with plenty of springtails, some bug burger and start feeding him flies with calcium right away, a few per day. As long as he eats the flies he should be back to normal in a month or two.

He does have less chances of surviving until is fully recovered though, so keep that in mind.

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Marta, I will try to do that... I can't believe he is still moving around on the bromeliad after 4 days. What is bug burger?
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Repashy Bug Burger. It's a dry powder you'll mix with hot water to create a high nutrient gel. It's good for feeding micro fauna. I'm glad the little guy is moving, that's definitely good and gives him hope. Do you have large amounts of clean springtails? I often dump them and dust with Calcium+ and feed them.
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Put him alone in a small container with plenty of springtails, some bug burger and start feeding him flies with calcium right away, a few per day. As long as he eats the flies he should be back to normal in a month or two.

He does have less chances of surviving until is fully recovered though, so keep that in mind.

Good luck!

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Marta, do you have new information I am unaware of? I have never heard of SLS (Spindly Leg Syndrome), as being a condition that can be cured.
If one of the froglet's front legs, is indeed obviously thinner than the others, that sure sounds like SLS.
Now I have not seen any pictures, but going from the first description, I don't believe the condition can be fixed in the ill froglet. I believe the kindest thing would be to put him down.
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Marta, do you have new information I am unaware of? I have never heard of SLS (Spindly Leg Syndrome), as being a condition that can be cured.
If one of the froglet's front legs, is indeed obviously thinner than the others, that sure sounds like SLS.
Now I have not seen any pictures, but going from the first description, I don't believe the condition can be fixed in the ill froglet. I believe the kindest thing would be to put him down.
Hey Doug,

Just like you, I haven't seen the pictures, so it is hard to be accurate on what "thinner" actually means, as it is a bit subjective.

However, when we first started in the hobby, as it happens with many, we didn't supplement our frogs correctly. So I did see a couple cases of SLS (at least I believed at the time it was).

I do remember that some of the froglets made it and the leg(s) got back to the size they should be.

Of course, as I said, it was very much so in the beginning for me and maybe it wasn't even SLS, although I really think it was.

It has been years since I have seen any issues like that in our collection, so I am not really up to date with this problems, but from the little experience I had, well, that's the advice I offered. If it was me, I wouldn't quite yet give up on the froglet, that's all.

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I wasn't able to get a picture today. The froglet kept moving around at different angles that didn't show his leg. And now the mom is hanging out with him, partially blocking him from view. I wonder why she is hanging out with him?

I tried to set up a small container for him with springtails, but decided to give him another day in the tank because I've been putting springtails on his bromeliad leaf, and he seems pretty comfortable there for now.
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