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Old 11-18-2004, 12:55 PM
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Hello All!

I have been bitten by PDFs! Although I'm just a beginner, I am learning fast. That being said, I would like to learn a lot more and quicker! In order to facilitate this learning curve, I have been talking to MANY DC metro area froggers to have an occasional get together. Including me, 18 are interested. Are you interested? Evenings work best. This is going to be the most difficult thing to do...select a date where most of us can attend. It would be a good way to trade, sell, group buys and discuss PDFs. Outside of that, here is a list of some possible topics (please feel free to add to this list):

1. Producing specific care sheets for every frog owned by members.
2. Breeding frogs.
3. Vivariums.
a. work shop - "How to construct a vivariums."
4. Plants.
5. Group buys (i.e., FCA acrylic tanks for under $100.00 - still in the works).
6. Husbandry and Diseases.
7. Food - who has had success with what.
8. Conservation (Sustaining the hobby).
9. Trades
10. Auction

We already have the site of our first two meetings:

1. Scott Menigoz (smenigoz)
2. Mike (Dunner97074)
3. Sean Stewart (seanstew)
*All three of the above have already graciously volunteered their place. Let me know if you want to host one!?!?

Here is the current list:

1. David Martin (dmartin72)
2. Sean Stewart (seanstew)
3. Scott Menigoz (smenigoz)
4. JustinYeager (yeager)
5. Richard SInes (tuthelimit)
6. Yuri (Yuri)
7. Scott (dartsanddragons)
8. Van Robinson (Van)
9. Tim (TimsViv)
10. Mike (Dunner97074)
11. Josh (JoshKaptur)
12. Nia (nana_enes)
13. Sue Frederick (mmunchkins)
14. Corey Wickliffe (KeroKero)
15. Damon Kraft (4thecrue)
16. Dawn Griffith (Dawn)
17. Nick Morin (NickMorin)
18. Jared Johnson (Jared J)
Please add yourself to the list if you are interested
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Old 11-18-2004, 01:17 PM
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PM me the following:

1. Name
2. Address
3. Phone number
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Default First Class Aquatics (custom acrylic vivariums)

It's only obvious that I am going to need a frog room. I'll start things off by asking who would be interested in Paul's custom acrylic tanks from First Class Aquatics. They will be less than $100.00 and I will probably get 4-5. We should be able to get a significant discount with a group buy. Also, I might be willing to make a trip over to Mentor, OH 44060 to save us all on the shipping. Who's interested?

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Just wanted to post an objection to Sunday mornings. I would prefer any evening, even if it is a weekday. I teach a high school sunday school class and almost never miss it. If I'm the only church-goer, so be it... but I suspect I'm not.

No offense taken if that is what is best for everyone else.

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Let's cross Sunday mornings off the potential days!

Keep PMing me those vitals so that I can continue to compile a list. Also, I would like this thread to become an area for us to come up with an agenda and appoint people to discuss specific topics!
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I would be interested in some acrylic tanks. Hopefully this will be after the holiday season, sometime in 2005?

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At the rate that Paul is going and the demand...that sounds about right. I hope really early 2005.
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I do not need any new tanks, but thanks a lot anyway. Any weeknight is good for me, or anytime on the weekend, except for Sunday night. Also, could we try to not schedule get-togethers on herp show days?
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Help David and Mike find a name:

1. Mid Atlantic Dendro Den (MADD)
2. DC Metro Froggers (Sounds like a baseball team)
3. DelMarVa Dendro Den (like AAA, but DDD)
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4. Chesapeake Dendro Club (CDC)

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Let's come up with names and start a poll!?!?

5. Chesapeake Dendro Den
6. DC Metro Dendro Group
7. DelMarVa Dendro Group
8. Chesapeake Dendro Group
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possible topics (please feel free to add to this list):

1. Producing specific care sheets for every frog owned by members.
2. Breeding frogs.
3. Vivariums.
a. work shop - "How to construct a vivariums."
4. Plants.
5. Group buys (i.e., FCA acrylic tanks for under $100.00 - still in the works).
6. Husbandry and Diseases.
7. Food - who has had success with what.
8. Conservation (Sustaining the hobby).
9. Trades
10. Auction
Now call me anti-intellectual (and I am not), but I feel a risk in over-formalizing these events... at least every one of them. Just as enjoyable (and a lot less work) is hanging out and talking frogs over a few drinks and some snacks.

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I definitely agree, I think starting very basic and meeting a few times a year and then building it up if it's desirable is a much better idea. I'm already getting nervous about going if there's so many things going on and so often. No one wants to drive up here, but conversely if it's a monthly thing I doubt I'll make it much there.
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I'm as "anti-intellectual" as they come. Did you see my avatar (I don't even know what that means). We should definitely keep this stuff all very informal. I do frogs to escape the hectic world around me. If you can't make it, catch the next "informal meeting" whenever that might be. The more meetings we have, the more likely you will be able to actually get to one. When I originally started thinking about this, I had only a few people in mind. It just seems like there is a lot of demand for this. From my experience in aquarium clubs, there is a lot of chatting about nothing, which is great in and of itself. We could set up a really informal guideline of what to chat about informally!

I think it would be really cool to have an informal workshop on how to build a vivarium. I for one am better at learning when I see this first hand. Plus you get to have everyone's input on different ways of doing things, which allows us to pick and choose the right way for you. Trading frogs...selling frogs...auctioning high demand frogs...this all sounds like it fills a void that many are lookinf for.

This is not a sermon just a thought (I heard that on the radio so I had to say it).

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possible topics (please feel free to add to this list):

1. Producing specific care sheets for every frog owned by members.
2. Breeding frogs.
3. Vivariums.
a. work shop - "How to construct a vivariums."
4. Plants.
5. Group buys (i.e., FCA acrylic tanks for under $100.00 - still in the works).
6. Husbandry and Diseases.
7. Food - who has had success with what.
8. Conservation (Sustaining the hobby).
9. Trades
10. Auction
Now call me anti-intellectual (and I am not), but I feel a risk in over-formalizing these events... at least every one of them. Just as enjoyable (and a lot less work) is hanging out and talking frogs over a few drinks and some snacks.

Josh
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Old 11-19-2004, 01:06 PM
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Sean Stewart http://www.herpetologic.net has added his name and place as a meeting site! I have personally seen his place...wow, what a professional set-up. Cool snakes too. Sean my Luecs are doing fantastic by the way!

We are up to 18 groupies!
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My thoughts are if I have to drive 2-3 hours for it, I'd rather have it be less often so when I do make it, more people are likely to make it there as well. However, if you do make it monthly, maybe I'll just catch the ones at a location of interest, or when it's convenient. The thing for me is I hit 2 of the 3 tolls on 95 from where I am to Florida just to go to MD, so each trip will cost me over $10 in tolls as well as gas and time. I'm definitely up for the community building, and I'm so glad it's been catching on, I just feel I should explain my hesitation. The Philly thing is great for me as it's not that far and there are no tolls (and I can hit up the lab on the way and justify the trip). I just think it would be a shame to segregate the different groups that are so close. I was hoping maybe 4 times a year we could combine the two groups, two down South, two up North.
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That was my hesitation for going to the Philly group...too far. Hence the DC area meeting. However, we could have a quarterly combined meeting (Philly and DC and everyone in between)?
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Well as per my previous post, I was hoping for quarterly, but I guess we'll just have to see what other people want.
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A good meeting place would be Baltimore, even at NAIB.

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National Aquarium in Baltimore would be cool (great frog exhibit), but rather expensive. Sean Stewart used to work there so maybe he still has connections. Who in Baltimore wants to volunteer their place? Don't forget we have 3 others (1. Scott Menigoz (smenigoz) - Frederick, MD, 2. Mike (Dunner97074) - Columbia?, MD & 3. Sean Stewart (seanstew) - Columbia?, MD) who have already already graciously volunteered their homes. Also, let's talk dates. Maybe we could meet one week or weekend following Thanksgiving holiday.

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Just FYI re: NAIB... admission on friday nights after 5:00pm is only $5. Normal adult admission is $18.

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Now that's reasonable!
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Hello all,

Mike (Dunner97074) and I (dmartin72) are trying to put together dates for our first meeting. Mike suggested Sunday, Dec. 12th @ 7PM or Friday, Dec. 17th.

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Hey, we've gotten positive feedback from 20 folks. So I was trying to move ahead with the planning of our first get together. I was looking for feedback on possible dates to see numbers of folks. so here goes...
Sun. Dec. 12, 7pm or Fri. Dec. 17, 7 pm. Please let me know via pm or e-mail ([email protected]).

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Sean Stewart of http://www.herpetologic.net/ has chimed in for Friday, Dec. 17th! I'll second that date.

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Thanks for putting the time into organizing this union of frog minds and hearts. My work schedule is very rough so I do not know how many meetings I will be able to attend, at least until my new contract starts in July 2005. For December, I am unavailable for the 12th but could attend the 17th most likely. Rock on!

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Yuri has chimed in for either date, which I'm thinking is starting to lean towards Friday, Dec. 17th.

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Either date/time combos work for me.

Thanks for doing this!

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Eve has chimed in for Friday, Dec. 17th

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We are going to have it at Mike's (Dunner97074) place in Columbia, MD on Friday, December 17th @ 7PM! I really hope to see you again there.

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Hello all,
I have a problem. I will not be able to host the Dec. get together. I have a family obligation I was just made aware of.
I apologize as I was very much looking forward to this. If there is anyone else who would be willing to step up and host the first party I will coordinate it and communicate with you the logistics. Again, I apologize, I will host the next one.
Please Let me know if you'd be willing to host.
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RSVP YES so far:
1. mmunchkins
2. Yuri
3. Dave in DC
4. Nana_enes
5. tuthelimit
6. me (dunner97074)

RSVP No so far:
1. Mikeshrom
2. dartsanddragons

No Response Yet:
1. stevebonheim
2. Dawn
3. Jared J
4. JoshKaptur
5. 4thecure
6. smenigoz
7. NickMorin
8. TimsVivs
9. Van
10. SeanStew
11. KeroKero
12. Yeager
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I forget who, but I RSVP-ed Yes to one of you.
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I won't be able to do Dec 17th, already have plans.
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Do we have an update?

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Do we have an update?

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With Mike's prior engagement, the 17Dec get together appears to be in limbo. Unless someone else chooses to volunteer, I'd be willing to offer my house for this date. I admit that I've never had a group of fellow froggers over at the same time and I don't have a clue about what's supposed to happen, but if all we need is a location and a common interest, I'm sure it would work out. My only request would be that it start earlier than 7:00 pm... my very understanding wife says that she'd be willing to pick up sodas and munchies. If this is agreeable, directions to follow. I live in Frederick, MD.
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Hey Scott...how are you?

I second your house as the site for the meeting...although you have to watch out for the LARGE wild cats roaming his home as well as the geckos. How is the traffic on Friday night? Scott, I'd be willing to help out. Anyway, I think the first meeting will be very informal, like a meet and greet! From there we can structure it to cover certain topics of interest. I think we should do a pot luck type of thing so that everyone pitches in with some food.

Sounds good,

David

PS I think people should start to list what types of frogs, plants and frog food they have for sale/trade to know what to bring.

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With Mike's prior engagement, the 17Dec get together appears to be in limbo. Unless someone else chooses to volunteer, I'd be willing to offer my house for this date. I admit that I've never had a group of fellow froggers over at the same time and I don't have a clue about what's supposed to happen, but if all we need is a location and a common interest, I'm sure it would work out. My only request would be that it start earlier than 7:00 pm... my very understanding wife says that she'd be willing to pick up sodas and munchies. If this is agreeable, directions to follow. I live in Frederick, MD.
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Scott,
No need to make special preparations, Dawn has volunteered her place (in Elkridge) for the get together. I'll be sending out an update e-mail to the group later tonight.
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Hello everyone!

Good news, Dawn has stepped up and offered her humble abode for our first get together. As far as frog items people plan on bringing please let me know and I will pass it along and also post on the Dendroboard. As far as people items, we'll make it pot luck for snacks. I plan on bringing plates, cups, utensils and (6) ice cold adult beverages (for me).
If you have not yet RSVP'd please let me know so we can get another head count. If you are still undecided let me know that as well.
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Here is the list so far:

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Dawn - your gracious host
Dunner97074 - springtail cultures if anyone is interested
mmunchkins
Yuri - may bring vents
JoshKaptur
Dave in DC
nana_enes
tuthelimit
DaveWillmore
NickMorin

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Dartsanddragons
KeroKero
MikeShrom

Unknown
StevenBonheim
Jared J
4thecrue
smenigoz
TimsVivs
Van
SeanStew
Yeager-Maybe w/beetle

I look forward to hearing from you (all of you). Directions will be forwarded soon.

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seanstew will be attending and bringing the following:

1. DENDROBATIDAE-POISON FROGS- The fantastic Journey through Ecuador, Peru and Colombia by Siegfried P. Christmann. 788 pages, 3 volume set with 100's of pictures. Covers Dendrobatids from these regions but takes it a step further with additional images on habitats, regions and other fauna and flora. Pictures and descriptions of the Epipedobates tricolor morphs and behavior, the Quinquevitattus group (imitator, ventrimaculatus, fantasticus, intermedius, amazonicus, duellmani, reticulatus, lamasi, variabilis, etc) and the Histrionicus group as well. A wonderful departure from other publications on dart frogs! Photos of very rare frogs! English and German versions available. The author has agreed to donate part of the proceeds to amphibian conservation programs at the Atlanta Botanical Garden. Price will be $210

2. Frogs - I'm sure he'll lest us know what type soon!

3. FF cultures (hydei and melanogaster)

4. Some food/drink - TBA

5. If he has time, he may bring some photos and video to share.
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Date?
Time?
Locaton?
Directions?

It sounds like fun. I will do my best to make it, but cannot commit at this point.

Mike and David - Thanks for all of your work to get the ball rolling.

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Mike or Dawn will follow with the Location and directions, but the date and time are still Dec. 17th (Friday) @ 7 pm.

Tim, we're still a few weeks away so I hope you can make it!

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It sounds like fun. I will do my best to make it, but cannot commit at this point.

Mike and David - Thanks for all of your work to get the ball rolling.

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Here is the list so far:

Yes
Dawn - your gracious host
Dunner97074 - springtail cultures if anyone is interested
mmunchkins
Yuri - may bring vents
JoshKaptur
Dave in DC
nana_enes
tuthelimit
DaveWillmore
NickMorin
smenigoz
SeanStew - FF Cultures and DENDROBATIDAE-POISON FROGS- The
fantastic Journey through Ecuador, Peru and Colombia by Siegfried P. Christmann


No
Dartsanddragons
KeroKero
MikeShrom
Van
Jared J

Unknown
StevenBonheim
TimsVivs

Maybe
Yeager- w/beetle
4thecrue
Ed

I look forward to hearing from you (all of you). Directions will be forwarded soon.

Mike

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I am planning on attending the MAD club! I plan to bring FF cultures (hydei and melanogaster), a few copies DENDROBATIDAE-POISON FROGS- The fantastic Journey through Ecuador, Peru and Colombia by Siegfried and Christmann, and probably some frogs. If you could give the group a heads up that they can get FF cultures and/or this "must-have" book on Dec 17th that would be great. This way I will know how many I need to bring. A brief description and cost of the book is below. It rocks! If I have time, I may bring some photos and video to share. Also, let me know what food or drink needs to be brought. Thanks!

Sean

DENDROBATIDAE-POISON FROGS- The fantastic Journey through Ecuador, Peru and Colombia by Siegfried P. Christmann. 788 pages, 3 volume set with 100's of pictures. Covers Dendrobatids from these regions but takes it a step further with additional images on habitats, regions and other fauna and flora. Pictures and descriptions of the Epipedobates tricolor morphs and behavior, the Quinquevitattus group (imitator, ventrimaculatus, fantasticus, intermedius, amazonicus, duellmani, reticulatus, lamasi, variabilis, etc) and the Histrionicus group as well. A wonderful departure from other publications on dart frogs! Photos of very rare frogs! English and German versions available. The author has agreed to donate part of the proceeds to amphibian conservation programs at the Atlanta Botanical Garden. Price will be $210.
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