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Old 11-02-2019, 03:07 PM
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Default 12x12 lighting help

What lighting arrangement should I buy to include UVB on a 12x12x18 exo-terra vivarium. It will be housing for oophaga pumilio black jeans froglets.

How can I fit LED and UVB in that space.
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Old 11-02-2019, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: 12x12 lighting help

If you wanted to include UVB (I'm not saying you should...) the only reliable way to do it is to run a linear florescent (e.g. T5HO) fixture over a screened area of the top of the viv. Screw-in UVB florescent lamps are...well, not universally praised for safe and efficient performance. There are no viable LED or incandescent UVB options currently, and MH and sodium lamps are, of course, too hot.

If you do use a T5HO UVB lamp (again, I'm not saying you should) you may have sufficient light to grow plants without LED.
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Default Re: 12x12 lighting help

Thanks for the T5HO UVB suggestion.

I am now thinking about the following:

For LED lighting: Exo Terra Compact Top, mini, 12" with Jungle Dawn LED 11w bulb

For UVB lighting: Exo Terra Compact Top, nano, 8" with Zoo Med Reptisun UVB CFL 13w 5.0 bulb

or: Carolina Custom Cages Reptile 12" T5HO UVB Standard Light Fixture with Zoo Med Reptisun T5 HO 5.0 UVB High Output Bulb

Thoughts?
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Old 11-03-2019, 01:22 AM
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Default Re: 12x12 lighting help

Why are you intending to provide UVB?

If there is some reason you think frogs need UVB, why do you think 5% (an iguana light!?) is a good lamp for frogs?

How do you think the frogs are going to deal with that general intensity (T5HO + LED) of light?
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I was under the impression that dart frogs need UVB. Is this not the case?

If so, then what is recommended?
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I was under the impression that dart frogs need UVB. Is this not the case?
No, they don't.

A good place to start is with general care sheets/instruction guides. Here's one for pums:

https://www.dendroboard.com/forum/ca...ed-expert.html

Note that pumilio are not a good choice for a first dart frog (and to preempt one common claim, experience with aquariums or other herps doesn't change this fact much). There are lots of care guides for other species here; even reading the ones about frogs you aren't interested in is relevantly educational:

https://www.dendroboard.com/forum/care-sheets/

Here are a list of decent threads about a range of beginner topics. Not all are up-to-date, exactly, but reading all of them will certainly clue you in to certain questions/issues/problems that you didn't even know you had (like the fact that running a partial screen top for UVB on a 12 x 12 x 18 Exo will require a misting system to keep up with humidity loss to the room, which will in turn require drilled drainage to keep up with false bottom filling):

https://www.dendroboard.com/forum/be...n-threads.html

Otherwise, the search feature (search field up on top of this and every page here) is very useful. Searching "UVB" a person realizes quickly that UVB with frogs is not necessary, challenging to implement, and even a bit contentious at times.

Read, read, read. And, by the way, welcome to DB!
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