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Old 02-11-2019, 04:46 AM
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Default Anyone know why my Darts head is grey?

Iv had about 6 luceomelas (bumblebee dart frogs) and 4/6 of them eventually had this grayish color on their heads. I think these froglets are fighting but I cant be too sure. I have a huge terrarium for them (18x18x12 exo terra) and a bunch of leaf litter for them to hide in. The hydrometer usually reads 80% on a daily average. Here's a recent picture of the worst greying iv seen so far. There is literally no topic on forums yet about this issue, but two of my froglets had eventually died from this greying and blood spots on their head. I had to recently isolate this little guy just incase they are fighting.

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Old 02-11-2019, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Anyone know why my Darts head is grey?

I hate to break this to you, but 18x18x12 exo terra is not huge. Six is too many frogs for that size even a great group frog like leucomelas. Ok for 2 but not 6. I keep 6 in a 75 gallon where they have plenty of hides and leaf cover to get away from each other. It causes a lot of stress for the frogs to not have enough space and they constantly battle for the prime spots.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: Anyone know why my Darts head is grey?

Most folks would agree with Hercrabit regarding viv size. Leucs are one of the '10 gallons per frog' frogs, I think. They'd really like a taller viv, too; an 18 x 18 x 36 would be a better size for that group.

How long have you had them? Where did you get them? What else can you tell us regarding temps, feeding, viv decor, etc?
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Yeah my guess would be fighting as well. For that many frogs you want a large viv with a lot of floor space, they are probably fighting and hurting each other.

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Old 02-11-2019, 04:27 PM
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How about shedding? It would look gray... Not really sure. Don't have frogs yet, but I've had other reptiles
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