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Old 10-21-2012, 04:48 AM
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Well, Im getting my first group of thumbs next week, and I decided I should probably start building a viv for them. I chose a 18 x 18 x 24 Zoomed. I like where the build is going thus far. Trying out some new techniques that i really haven't done in past builds, messing around with roots and vines, and also really texturizing the great stuff. Its not a display, tank but its not a tank strictly for breeding/rearing either, like most of my tanks this one is kinda a mix of both. This one is also going to be about 70% land and 30% water, no water falls, but I have a pump inside and i plan on covering it with gravel, and then sand on top of that? Im not sure on the order yet, but am willing to take suggestions for non of my current vivs have water features. also I should add the very lowest piece of wood is not attatched to anything Im not really sure where im going to use it yet, so im also open to suggestions on that subject

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varadero are going to love it! getting a pair or a few juvies? IF it were me.. and its not.. I would scrap that bottom piece of wood and fill that bottom up with plants. I used to love wood and stuff on the bottom and have since gone away with it because I would rather have more plants. but with an 18" footplan dont lose space with the wood. Get some sweet plants in there!
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I like how that bottom piece of wood is curved and wraps around like that. Very nice. I don't have any real suggestions for it though.
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Great hardscape!
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Can't wait to see this built out and planted!
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Thanks everyone!
I believe Im getting 5 juvies in a trade. I want most of the broms and plants to be up top in the canopy following the contour of the wood scape, also the wood will be covered in java moss. The ground area I wanted to leave pretty simple, ABG mix, leaf litter and mosses. . . and i want the ground to fade into the water area,I plan on using some sort of black gravel and black sand, or regular sand, mind isn't really made up on that yet.
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What did you cover the GS with?
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just the reg. . . silicone and dried eco earth. . .

added the black gravel and black sand, and also just threw down some sphagnum moss and litter to get and idea of the land mass, and the water area, pump is submerged under the gravel and seems to be working just fine. what are some good little aquatic plants? Im gonna have some duckweed and java moss, im hopeing that the java moss will make a nice division in between the substrate and sand. also im going to be adding more vines and roots to the background.

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just the reg. . . silicone and dried eco earth. . .
Gotcha. I used to use that method but I'm getting ready to put together a few more exos (24x18x24 and a couple 18x18x24's) and probably going to go the titebond III + peat + tree fern fibers.
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ive never really looked into other methods, i think that the majority of backgrounds get covered up as is, and for me this is by far the quickest, cost efficient, easiest solution, that looks half decent if its carved correctly.
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trying to get pictures to work but for some reason it keeps uploading vertically
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wow, I really love the wood layout.
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thanks, I planted a few broms i got from josh's in a random growers choice pack(i was surprised by the size). but i have another order of broms coming from jason, which i feel i will mainly be using those, I should have java moss in by next week... here is what got from josh's this is not the permanent placement of broms though.




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OMG, it's stunning. That wood placement. Very nice!
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Your frogs will LOVE that protruding piece of wood, I've got something similar in my veradero vi and they are always hanging out up there.
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As far as floating water plants go, I have Salvinia in my water feature. It looks like miniature lily pads and it grows like a weed. I got a few individuals by accident in a bag of azolla, and it went crazy. I used to throw handfuls away every few weeks, but now something is eating it. It still grows fast enough to break even.

Also, just about every 'aquatic' plant you can get at a pet store will grow half in and half out of the water.
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Heres a few from my new group, and also their temp home i made this morning...lol i was scared to open the 190 oz bin in fear of them jumping out, they were really quick when i released them into the 190 oz, so I took an extra 190 oz lid cut out the top just leaving the rim took and extra 190 oz bottom and flipped it upside down then hot glued it to the lid rim. . . attatched and sealer taped around it... took one of the little cylinders they came in and cut the bottom out and burnt a hold in the plastic then used a funnel til i had the desired hold to fit the cylinder...now when ever i want to feed/mist i just unscrew the green cap and there ya have it.





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Viv is looking good!
You'll love these guys(varaderos)...
Mine are awesome...very bold/outgoing frogs.
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got new plants and decided the ones that were in there didnt really go with the scheme, so im gonna try and find room in other vivs for them... here is the update. . .







plants used so far, were. . .

Neoregelia Ponci Yellow

Neoregelia High Voltage

Neoregelia Night spot x Tiger

Java Moss

Riccia Moss

still to come Peperomia Rotundifolia
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That tank looks amazing! I better turn my laptop away so my Varaderos don't get jealous.
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thanks! Ive only had the tank for 8 days, so im very satisfied so far, excited to see how the moss does
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That is probably the most creative temp enclosure I have every seen.
New Viv looks great by the way.
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Looks fantastic. That large bromeliad is stunning, which one is that and how big is it?
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The tiger banded broms look wayyyyyy nicer in there
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I believe its Neoregelia High Voltage. . . that particular one is about 10" wide it was the biggest one in the package, I have another one about 3-4" smaller but i dont know where to fit it in there. . .
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The tiger banded broms look wayyyyyy nicer in there
thanks! I kinda just gambled on the 20$ growers choice from joshs with the previous ones, and i figured i could just use them in another viv. . .
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saw your U-tube video. I like the way you've redone it more. Looks good. PM me if you wanna make me a deal on those matecho froglets since your gettin out of them
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saw your U-tube video. I like the way you've redone it more. Looks good. PM me if you wanna make me a deal on those matecho froglets since your gettin out of them
thanks, I think it will look pretty natural when the moss fills in on the wood and i get the peperomia, as for the matecho, I plan on growing the last of them up to adults to swap out/sell/trade
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I love the tank, and I love the frogs!
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Looks great Troy. Those broms are definitely an upgrade from the earlier ones. They're from Jason (tropicalplantz)?
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Looks great Troy. Those broms are definitely an upgrade from the earlier ones. They're from Jason (tropicalplantz)?
Yep, I agree completely as I figured Id be using jasons anyway, i found other spots for the ones from joshes in some the tinc tanks.
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I really like how you arranged everything in there.
thanks! Im quite satisfied myself. . .
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Yes, looks very balanced and attractive.
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Wow Troy. That's a stunner! Your hired!

I can't wait to see updates and see how the moss does.
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Viv is gonna be awesome when fully grown in!!!!
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Thank you Glenn and Brad, from the looks if it so far I think the moss is going to do well, it has already started to root to the wood, Ill post an updated photo in a month or so to show how its doing. Frogs seem to love the viv though, the first night in they were pretty shy and all 5 went into the "Night spot x Tiger" in the upper left corner, but this morning they were all over the place, some low, some high, in each and every brom, so im excited for them
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