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So I've been working on this for months and months, and I feel like it's finally at the point where it's worth sharing some pictures

The specs are:
Enclosure: 36x24x48, hand built by me. The water area is roughly 36x24x10 with a 10 gallon sump. It holds about 50 gallons of water and will be a low-tech planted community freshwater aquarium.

Lighting: 4x39 24" Tek HOT5 unit with high quality reflectors. I used this on my previous 18 gallon SPS reef with great success so it should be sufficient light for bromeliads. If not, I have a friend who builds custom LED units that I know could handle the depth of this tank.

Misting: Mist King

Air Movement: Internal air circulation is achieved by 4 PC fans controlled by an NZXT Sentry LX built into the front of the stand.

Plants: The bromeliads are from Chris Teem (Rainforest Herps) and are spectacularly large. The largest is about 15" in diameter (Neo. Strawberry Blush). The begonia is also from Chris. The rest are an assortment of ferns and other random plants from Black Jungle and Home Depot. I'm only about 3/4 done with planting.

Frogs: No frogs as of yet, but they will be a large group of some type of Ranitomeya. My first plan was for vanzolinii, but their shyness has somewhat put me off for choosing them for such a large tank.

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Thanks for finally posting this on this forum...If you come to the show in Raleigh I got some really cool water plants you should put in there...plus ill give you some free fish I need to get rid off....lol
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Bromeliads

Neo. Strawberry Blush


Neo. Walking Tall


Neo. Gold Fever


Neo. Cocktail


Neo. Kawika x Hawaiin Rainforest


Neo. Pauciflora x Kaustkyi


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Thanks for finally posting this on this forum...If you come to the show in Raleigh I got some really cool water plants you should put in there...plus ill give you some free fish I need to get rid off....lol
Sounds good I was going to keep it a secret till I had finished planting it and let it grown in, but I was too excited, and plus I'll probably never really finish planting it.
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Ill shoot you the email of the ferns/ begonias/ and vines later on tonight for you to choose from
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looks great!! How are you filtering it??
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Some old Power Filter I have. It's got a bit of biological, mechanical and chemical filtration built in.
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Looks good, hopefully mine will come out just as well

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Wow, that is one awesome tank. Nice job! Do you have any construction pics? I'd love to see how things went together.
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Old 08-11-2011, 08:31 PM
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Yep! Start at the bottom of this set and work your way up
Paludarium Project - a set on Flickr
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Looks great! Where did you get material for the background panel?
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It's ecoweb, I got it from here
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NICE! I now have 2 threads that ill keep up on.
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your two builds are by far my favorites!
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Awesome job so far. It's definitely display material
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vic your paludarium is really sharp. great job on your brom choice - it makes an immediate attention grabber
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How did you mount all your broms?
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Very nicely done. I like that you used aquasoil. Did you get it from ADG? That tank will look really good when it all starts to grow in.
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Most of the broms are mounted just by shoving them in holes in the wood or behind it (I made sure to leave some area open between the wood and background). The others are pinned in place by a toothpick.

I got the aquasoil from Aqua Forest. I gave up on ADG a while back.

I had a chance to rearrange some stuff and I think I'm happy with where everything is sitting now. It looks more natural IMO.

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Better pic of the Neo. Pauciflora x Kautskyi


The Neo. Strawberry Blush again. It's really spreading out now. I really need to do a size reference in these shots. It's unbelievably big


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Quick question, where is your ET fern planted?
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Skills! Nice work.
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Quick question, where is your ET fern planted?
The one in the picture is just pinned to the background. I dunno if it'll do well there or not. Ferns are so finicky
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The one in the picture is just pinned to the background. I dunno if it'll do well there or not. Ferns are so finicky
Love the layout a lot more!!! Glad to see the broms are opening up more...they are big I know but if I sent you small ones it would look as natural...hope you are okay with their sizes


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I think they'll do fine!
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I like the fine tweeks bud. Lookin beast.
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Vic as far as frog choice i don't know if pums are your thing but they would definately appreciate those broms especially basti but as thumbnails go - maybe some chazuta imitators? I just got a trio for my paludarium and they are always out and calling. My first imitators after leaving the pumilio side.......I don't regret it.
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Vic as far as frog choice i don't know if pums are your thing but they would definately appreciate those broms especially basti but as thumbnails go - maybe some chazuta imitators? I just got a trio for my paludarium and they are always out and calling. My first imitators after leaving the pumilio side.......I don't regret it.
Pumilio will rot out those broms when they lay infertile eggs in the axils to feed the tadpoles. I would stick to thumbs as they are easier on the broms
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Gorgeous!

Please tell me how you did the substrate. What keeps it from falling in the water? I started a paludarium but gave up when my substrate fell in
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Pumilio will rot out those broms when they lay infertile eggs in the axils to feed the tadpoles. I would stick to thumbs as they are easier on the broms
Can this be avoided by flushing out the broms regularly? Reason I ask is I also plan on having display broms, and possibly pumilio.

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Gorgeous!

Please tell me how you did the substrate. What keeps it from falling in the water? I started a paludarium but gave up when my substrate fell in
It's just a standard false bottom with super long supports


I lined the edge of the false bottom with great stuff and siliconed the substrate to it. It functions really well as a dam to keep the substrate from falling into the water

I have Uhern line intermedius in the other tank which are essentially identical to Chazuta. Right now the top contenders are Baja Huallaga imitators and Blackwater Vents, though I still have a soft spot for vanzolinii.
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Can this be avoided by flushing out the broms regularly? Reason I ask is I also plan on having display broms, and possibly pumilio.
Never tried that before...fear it would wash out the tadpole as well...looks like we have a good question for a new thread
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That's the same one you sent me that link to the other day isn't it? Pretty BA!! You should get him an arawana swimming around under there
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Pumilio will rot out those broms when they lay infertile eggs in the axils to feed the tadpoles. I would stick to thumbs as they are easier on the broms
This wpould be a good topic/ poll to see how long people's broms last with their eggfeeders over a period of time.

I never knew the eggs were rotting them at a specific pace - however i never really kept showpiece broms with my egg feeders. I just presumed i kept them too wet when they gave on me after a year or two. Vic - jsut wait till those polypodium ferns get going. They're gonna look great
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Yeah I've seen them at their full size before, they'll look pretty spectacular
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Ugh I hate doing this, but I really can't make this decision on my own.

I can't figure out what type of frog I want in here. Aside from my little 18x18x24, this is going to be my only tank. There's no wiggle room here, I built this knowing that I could only have one tank (I convinced the wife to let me build the 18x18x24 as practice, but she won't fall for that trick twice).

So, here are the requirements:
1. Has to be Ranitomeya

That's it. Other things to keep in mind:
- This is a big tank so it needs to be pretty visible
- Have to be able to tolerate each other
- Price is not a concern


Taking everything in consideration, what would you guys choose?
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The Vents WILL be skittish anytime you walk by the tank, which is a minus IMO, although they do look fantastic...but then you can't move.

No experience with vanzolinii habits.

BH Imis will almost never run, will be very active and very visible throughout the viv. Plus I want a pair since I feel these are more attractive than the CV or Nominal/Standard Imitators
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If money isnt an option, Benedicta. I have someone nudging me to get them for my tank also :P
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The only reason I hadn't considered benedicta is because they're supposedly so shy.


OH, I almost forgot to mention another requirement:
2. I don't want to pull eggs, so whatever ends up in there needs to raise their own tadpoles.
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Are you sure you want to have them raise Tads? I would be concerned if the fish ate the tads. But that's only if they transport to the water on the bottom which is a very good possibility. Also what happens if a frog falls in? That's just something to keep in mind.

I would go for standard lamasi.

Standards and benedicta are my two favorite frogs.

The reason people say benedicta are so shy is because there tank is not well suited for them. Benedicta like dim light and a very well planted viv. So having them in a viv with bright lights cause them to hid deep in broms.
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