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Old 07-23-2011, 09:48 PM
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I'm so excited. I got my retics last December and I've been waiting patiently (somewhat) for them to finally lay and fertilize some good eggs. Yesterday, I finally got to see what I've been waiting for. Wow, quite a big tad pack for such a small frog! I know retics are kind of iffy on making it to adulthood, but I'm sure excited to at least be getting this far. One not so great picture (taken through the glass as he's the shy one of the couple) of the dad transporting his tads, one great picture of the dad sitting in a nut pod with his tads and one of a couple of retic tads in a film canister.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:16 PM
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I'm so excited. I got my retics last December and I've been waiting patiently (somewhat) for them to finally lay and fertilize some good eggs. Yesterday, I finally got to see what I've been waiting for. Wow, quite a big tad pack for such a small frog! I know retics are kind of iffy on making it to adulthood, but I'm sure excited to at least be getting this far. One not so great picture (taken through the glass as he's the shy one of the couple) of the dad transporting his tads, one great picture of the dad sitting in a nut pod with his tads and one of a couple of retic tads in a film canister.
Congrats man...keep up the good work!!!
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Hi Dablock,

Congratulations and thanks for the great photographs. Retics is definitely a species on my "to do" list. Let us know how they tads make out.

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Very cool... those tads look huge in relation to the parents. I know its a small frog but still..
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always a great sight!!
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Very nice! Can anyone tell me the morph out time for these guys?
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Very nice. These will be on my list someday. GL with the tads!
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That is great! I tried them several years ago but froglets were always missing legs, so I moved on.
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Congrats David, retics are a hugely needed project. In over 20 yrs of being here they are still one of the hardest to successfully breed and raise in the hobby. Everyone whos pitching in deserves all the due credit. Hope to see froglet updates next.

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Very nice transport pics! I have been hoping to catch a transport in action but hasn't happened yet. I guess if I would stop pulling eggs I would have better luck.

Who did you get your frogs from?
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Now thats something you dont catch everyday!

Great job

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Great shots. Glad to see you are up for the challenge of raising one of the more challenging dart frog species.
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Thanks for all the encouragement. My retics were my last big purchase and the crown (at least for a while) of my collection. So I'm excited to see these little jewels trying to increase their number. I'll try and update the progress I see.

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That is great! I tried them several years ago but froglets were always missing legs, so I moved on.
I think perserverance is the key. My auratus started out the same way: bad eggs for a few months followed by cycles of SLS tads. Then just when I was about to quit trying to breed them ... Bam! - perfectly formed froglets. So I'll just hang in with this couple until they can get it right.

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Very nice transport pics! I have been hoping to catch a transport in action but hasn't happened yet. I guess if I would stop pulling eggs I would have better luck.

Who did you get your frogs from?
I was lucky to get the photo. I saw him in the nut pod, but I couldn't see any tads. I took the photo anyway and didn't realize I had caught him in the act until I downloaded the file the next day. Although, I do think taking the photo caused him to not release them in the pod, but take them later to a film canister. I read that for retics that it is better to let the parents try to raise the tads. It increases chances of success. So although I was tempted, I never pulled any of the eggs. I would dispose of the unfertilized ones after being sure he wasn't going to do his job.

I purchased the frogs from Understory Enterprises.

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Very nice! Can anyone tell me the morph out time for these guys?
They morph out in about 75 to 85 days.
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Congrats! Fantastic pics!
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A sad update: all three tads were dead within a couple of days

I'm not too surprised that the first round didn't go well, although I was harboring a slight hope of success the first time out of the gate. The pair has already laid more eggs so I guess they're on a roll and they'll get it all right one of these times.

Question for anyone who has bred retics: Have you ever taken the tads out to raise them in a tad cup? Was doing that more successful than leaving the job up to the parents?

I'll revisit with more updates as they become available.
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A sad update: all three tads were dead within a couple of days

I'm not too surprised that the first round didn't go well, although I was harboring a slight hope of success the first time out of the gate. The pair has already laid more eggs so I guess they're on a roll and they'll get it all right one of these times.

Question for anyone who has bred retics: Have you ever taken the tads out to raise them in a tad cup? Was doing that more successful than leaving the job up to the parents?

I'll revisit with more updates as they become available.
There was a thread a while back talking about retic parent care. The retic parents do not egg feed so the Tads eat crud, flies, Isos, springs and such. I don't have them so I can't answer the other part.
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Congrats on getting them going! Don't get discouraged from the loss of the first few Tads, mine took a while to get things right but now that they have, they are producing pretty regularly.
As far as pulling Tads, when I notice a clutch I'll leave it til just before the Tads are ready to break out. I take the film can out and lay it in a petrie dish on it's side and fill the dish with blackwater/ aged R.O being sure not to submerge the eggs. From there I wait for then to break out and then treat them the same as all my other Tads. (raised individually in 8oz cups feeding "new life spectrum")
I have seen others have success letting the parents do all the work, but it has yet to work for me. In viv I get Tads to the point of decent sized back legs then they die for no reason. When I pull Tads I have about an 85% success rate, so for now I'll keep cradle robbing.. 

Good luck with them!
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Congrats on getting them going! Don't get discouraged from the loss of the first few Tads, mine took a while to get things right but now that they have, they are producing pretty regularly.
As far as pulling Tads, when I notice a clutch I'll leave it til just before the Tads are ready to break out. I take the film can out and lay it in a petrie dish on it's side and fill the dish with blackwater/ aged R.O being sure not to submerge the eggs. From there I wait for then to break out and then treat them the same as all my other Tads. (raised individually in 8oz cups feeding "new life spectrum")
I have seen others have success letting the parents do all the work, but it has yet to work for me. In viv I get Tads to the point of decent sized back legs then they die for no reason. When I pull Tads I have about an 85% success rate, so for now I'll keep cradle robbing.. 

Good luck with them!
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Thanks, Chris. I'll be giving your method a try.
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