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Old 05-27-2011, 02:22 AM
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Default New 16" Cube - PIC HEAVY!

My first attempt at a clay background and using Turface as a substrate.

Need to add leaf litter, broms and bugs - all coming next week.

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Closeup of Turface:


I added a couple more pieces of driftwood so I'd have a few more planting places for the broms I've got coming next week.


Plants are liking the clay:








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Old 05-27-2011, 02:40 AM
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Nice! You make the cube yourself? Also, are you going to do a clay substrate over the infield conditioner?
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Old 05-27-2011, 04:50 AM
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Very nice. I'm curious to see how the turface works for you. I love the 18" cubes, but your 16" looks nice. Make sure you update.
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Looks good.. will be watching to see how the substrate works out.
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Old 05-27-2011, 10:31 PM
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Nice! You make the cube yourself? Also, are you going to do a clay substrate over the infield conditioner?
Nope - the cube is by RPN. And nope - all I'm planning is leaf litter and maybe a few pockets of an organic mix that I'm making up.

Reworked and replanted:




Replanted 'center cluster':


This new layout gives me a lot more room for new plants next week!
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Old 05-29-2011, 11:50 PM
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Seeded with lots 'o bugs and tons of leaf litter.




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Old 06-02-2011, 09:26 PM
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New plants!

4 x Neo. Fireball + pups
1 x Ficus pumila 'Rikki'
1 x Ficus pumila 'Bellus'
1 x Ficus pumila 'Oak Leaf'

I also picked up a Peperomia caperata 'Little Fantasy' and a Pleurothallis grobyii. Neither of which are going in this viv. Maybe a cutting of the pep, if I need to fill some space.

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Right side:


Center brom cluster:
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:29 PM
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thats awsome! what type of wood is that?
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:39 PM
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That's a whole lot of fast growing ficus! I would also add a nice aroid.
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:42 PM
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sorry forgot one more thing, what type of turface is that?
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Old 06-02-2011, 11:36 PM
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That's a whole lot of fast growing ficus! I would also add a nice aroid.
Fast growing is the idea. I'm getting a pair of frogs this weekend and I'm hoping they'll like it enough to start breeding right away.

There are actually a couple Philodendron cuttings making their way through the leaf litter so I've got the aroid covered. Hoping that'll take off too.

froggies13 - I'm not 100% sure what the wood is called. It's the kind generally available at pet stores. It's quite heavy and dense. Sorry I can't be much more help than that.

The Turface product is called MVP - the coarsest grade they make.
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thanks you i might look into that for my next viv driftwood looks great
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Old 07-23-2011, 01:11 AM
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Old 07-23-2011, 01:46 PM
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BTW - these are Ranitomeya imitator 'Yumbatos'.
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Very nice. What is "Turface" exactly. It looks like a synthetic growing medium of some kind?
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Old 07-23-2011, 03:58 PM
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Very nice. What is "Turface" exactly. It looks like a synthetic growing medium of some kind?
It's actually an infield conditioner for ball diamonds.

MVP Calcined Clay | Turface Athletics
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I'm not sure if this has come up before (if it has I apologize), but aren't you concerned about the clay breaking down fairly quickly?
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Old 07-24-2011, 02:19 PM
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I'm not sure if this has come up before (if it has I apologize), but aren't you concerned about the clay breaking down fairly quickly?
I've had it in a tank for 2+ months so far and have not seen ANY particle breakdown.

Plus, there is this from the manufacutuer's website:
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Particle Stability: Sulfate Soundness testing (ASTM C-88) and static degradation test not to exceed 4% loss over 20 years
I'm no scientist, but it sounds to me like it's designed to hold it's form for a LONG time.
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does it have an calcium in it? I am making a tank possibly for pumilio and they need the clay substrate.
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does it have an calcium in it? I am making a tank possibly for pumilio and they need the clay substrate.
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SiO2 - 74%
Al2O3 - 11%
Fe2O3 - 5%
All other chemicals equal less than 5% and include : CaO, MgO, K2O, Na2O and TiO2
There is some in there, but not a ton.
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Nice shot! Seems like they like there new home!

What plant is he perched on?
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Hi. I'm a total newb, no frogs or vivs yet. I keep fish and I am familiar with Oil Dri as an aquarium substrate in a planted aquarium, so I understand the benefits of using it for plants. I was searching to see if Oil Dri could be used instead of LECA as a drainage layer. So I thought I'd check and see how the Turface is working for you??
I was also thinking of mixing some into the soil layer, but not using it as a stand alone substrate. Any opinion on using it as a mix-in?


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Hi. I'm a total newb, no frogs or vivs yet. I keep fish and I am familiar with Oil Dri as an aquarium substrate in a planted aquarium, so I understand the benefits of using it for plants. I was searching to see if Oil Dri could be used instead of LECA as a drainage layer. So I thought I'd check and see how the Turface is working for you??
I was also thinking of mixing some into the soil layer, but not using it as a stand alone substrate. Any opinion on using it as a mix-in?


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I have been mixing with my wannabe ABG mix along with a handful of redart for my past few vivs, it has been holding up nicely so far and microfauna populations/plants are doing well.

If nothing else, I felt it could give the substrate a bit more structure to keep it from compacting as quickly as a full-on organic substrate might. So far, that theory has held up, but it has only been a few months, so take it for what you will.... I don't really foresee any downsides to using it at this point.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:42 AM
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Sorry for the delay in responding to your question. The substrate is holding up great in both tanks I'm using it in. I have actually increased the amount of Turface I'm adding to my clay background mix to give it a bit more structure. I like this stuff a lot.
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