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Old 09-21-2010, 08:57 PM
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Got some of my new tanks from Jason. Thought I'd record the progress on here.

I think the rack sits too low to the ground so I'm going to get some 4x4, bore a hole in one end and sit the rack feet in it. I'm thinking 6 to 12 inches off the ground.

I've got two other tanks here and 8 more on their way once Jason moves up. That should fill the wall. After that on the far wall will be a 4'x4'x30" tank set back in the wall. It will stick 18 inches out into the room and be framed by a stainless steel rack to allow me to put tanks above and below.


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Old 09-21-2010, 09:16 PM
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Jeff, are you going to put some kind of foam padding under the protean tanks ( can't tell, maybe there is on the bottom 2)? I would highly recommend it, I think you may be risking the bottoms cracking when you get substrate in there.

I would definitely want them higher off the floor too, could you just go buy taller poles rather than do the 4 x 4's?

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Old 09-21-2010, 09:19 PM
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You could also just get the industrial rollers like you have on the rack next to it, that would give you another 4 inches of height.
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:28 PM
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I've put particle board underneath, I was thinking of using insulation foam as well.
The wheels for the racks are already bent from too much weight I didn't want to use them again. 4x4 is going to be the cheapest/easiest way to get them up higher. Painted black they should look pretty good.
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Looking good Jeff! If you do decide that you want to use wheels I have a bunch laying around.
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:47 PM
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I've put particle board underneath, I was thinking of using insulation foam as well.
The wheels for the racks are already bent from too much weight I didn't want to use them again. 4x4 is going to be the cheapest/easiest way to get them up higher. Painted black they should look pretty good.
You probably already made note of this when you saw our setups, but we were able to find thin, dense foam padding at the local men's fabric store that is barely noticeable under the tanks due to it's dark color. It's more expensive but the aesthetics are worth it.

I forgot to say though, looks great.
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You probably already made note of this when you saw our setups, but we were able to find thin, dense foam padding at the local men's fabric store that is barely noticeable under the tanks due to it's dark color. It's more expensive but the aesthetics are worth it.

I forgot to say though, looks great.
Do you know what it is called?
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:01 PM
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Unless I am misunderstanding your intent. You might be better off going to a salvage yard and getting some steel pipe to make extensions with for your racks. I would be leery of using 2x4's to support that weight especially after boring holes in it. 2x4's can easily crack and I would hate to see a rack come tumbling down because of it.
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:43 PM
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Do you know what it is called?
Tony, I think it's called closed cell foam. I believe we got the 1/2" charcoal.

Neoprene Closed Cell Foam and Specialty Foam : Water Resistant Fabric : Seattlefabrics.com
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Tony, I think it's called closed cell foam. I believe we got the 1/2" charcoal.

Neoprene Closed Cell Foam and Specialty Foam : Water Resistant Fabric : Seattlefabrics.com
Thanks, I will look for that. All my tanks are on bare shelves at the moment, but there is no weight in them yet because they are being used for quarantine or froglet grow-out.
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Thanks, I will look for that. All my tanks are on bare shelves at the moment, but there is no weight in them yet because they are being used for quarantine or froglet grow-out.
Before it slips my mind, while this has worked great for cushioning the tanks, it's a bear to slide the tanks in and out especially when they JUST fit the racks, the foam against glass makes for kind of a suction cup effect. We found that by covering the foam with sheets of silicone impregnated parchment paper the tanks slid easily, then you can either pull of the sheets or leave them in case you ever want to move the tank.
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Awesome, thanks for the tip. How are those eggs looking?
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Awesome, thanks for the tip. How are those eggs looking?
Looking WAY too good .
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Sweet. I love seeing how fast they develop, darts are like watching grass grow by comparison.
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Old 09-21-2010, 11:29 PM
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Looks good! I really like that 48" tank, a rack of those would look nice. I agree with the consensus of not using wood 4x4's. The thought of splitting wood would be devastating. Unfortunately, I have no other ideas other than the wheels mentioned. I am kinda in the same situation myself and will keep an eye this thread. Have fun with the builds, I am looking forward to round two myself.

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Old 09-22-2010, 12:23 AM
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Looks good! I really like that 48" tank, a rack of those would look nice. I agree with the consensus of not using wood 4x4's. The thought of splitting wood would be devastating. Unfortunately, I have no other ideas other than the wheels mentioned. I am kinda in the same situation myself and will keep an eye this thread. Have fun with the builds, I am looking forward to round two myself.

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I really would suggest swapping out those poles with 7 foot long ones. It's the simplest solution and risk free. It looks cool too to have the tanks almost reach the ceiling too.
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I really would suggest swapping out those poles with 7 foot long ones. It's the simplest solution and risk free. It looks cool too to have the tanks almost reach the ceiling too.
I did not know these were available. Absolutely the way to go!
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I am sure if you looked around there are better deals too. I have enough extra shelves, I can justify an extra set of poles!

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The Container Store in Portland and Jerry's in Eugene both carry extra poles, but I'm not sure if they have the 7' tall ones so you may want to call ahead.
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Old 09-22-2010, 07:52 PM
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You guys are a bunch of nay sayers! Back to the drawing board.
I wasn't able to track down close cell foam yesterday.
I got a 4x4 but now that you all have crapped all over that idea I'm heading down to Jerry's tomorrow to look for longer poles.
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Old 10-05-2010, 12:32 PM
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Ok, I ordered extensions for my poles but decided they were too short at 6 inches. I'm returning those and getting 14 inch plus the screw in style pole connector. The 14 inch extensions will go on top of the exsiting poles and shelves will be rearranged to got to the ceiling. This will also give me more room between the top of the tank and the next shelf.

I also found closed cell foam at the Foam Man in Corvallis. It's black polyethylene at 1/4 inch.

At some point this week I pick up the majority of $400 worth of Sun Blaze T5's and egg crate.

Pics to follow.
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now that you all have crapped all over that idea I'm heading down to Jerry's tomorrow to look for longer poles.

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looking good jeff...its mike (used to work at animal house)...I want to come check it out sometime. I have lots of questions and am setting up some tanks soon
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Old 11-09-2010, 11:32 AM
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Let's do it an a week or two. The room is in shambles as I finish up the second rack.
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sounds good...not to worried about a mess though...more about constuction and stuff...I fully understand...give me a ring when you are ready...I am also looking for frogs...just azureus and/or luecs...talk to you later
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:32 PM
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Some updates.
Went with the whole "clay thing". The 50lb bag cost me $12 dollars so was way cheaper than fern or bark paneling (that would have been less time consuming though). I'm very happy with it. Moss and algae is growing in fast. Still have two tanks to finish and the plants need to grow in a bit. Just got my misting nozzles and will plug those in soon, Thanks E.
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I'll post more pics when my computer stops acting like a two year old.
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:47 PM
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More...
Got some growing in to do. I've laced the clay mix with Java moss so we'll see what that does. Think everything should really take off with regular mistings.









They're not in any particular order but the tanks that have a bare patch in the front where no leaves are will get a layer of milled Java or Christmas moss for a "front lawn". Any bare branches will also be seeded with moss once the misting nozzles are in.
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Thought it's about time to update.

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Deadly looking tanks! Nice man
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nice growth!!
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what lighting are you using over your tanks?
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I really like your tanks but mostly the way you dispose your plants. You have a good sense of heights and the outcome is great. Some people work with plants they don't know and place them wrong. Can't wait to be done with school and order 1000$ of plants
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Julio, they're 48" Sun Blaze T5's.
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I assume HO? with individual reflectors? what K scale?
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WOW, Jeff... amazing tanks! Love your plant selection and the moss growth.
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Very very impressive. Aesthetically pleasing without losing form and function.
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