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Old 07-12-2010, 04:37 AM
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Some quick photos after being reintroduced to his tank after a long car ride. More to come in the following days/weeks...























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Old 07-12-2010, 04:44 AM
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Wow, outstanding. Find that guy a girlfriend!
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:46 AM
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now just find him a lady and get the rest of us some babies!!!!

whats going on w/ his left rear thighin the second to last pic? theres some brownish spot...

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Old 07-12-2010, 04:48 AM
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yeah, i wish.

haha, i saw that as well and freaked for a second, until i realized it was a piece of a rotting leaf on his thigh.
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my jealousy cannot be formed into words, was he part of the European import a year or two ago?
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cloning instead of finding a female?
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He is a LTC import from a few years ago, I believe.

I've considered that Doug, but what to use as an oocyte host? Either way, with mitochondrial DNA any resulting offspring wouldn't be exact genotypic matches.
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Old 07-12-2010, 05:05 AM
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Sorry I missed this fellow while I still lived in Boston. Good luck with him and I hope you can find a partner.
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Old 07-12-2010, 05:07 AM
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Sorry I missed this fellow while I still lived in Boston. Good luck with him and I hope you can find a partner.
I know, wish you could be here to photograph him!!
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Old 07-12-2010, 05:10 AM
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I know, wish you could be here to photograph him!!
It looks like I'll be in Boston the night before Shawn's BBQ if you want to meet up. I'd love to see this fellow.
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Amazing!!! How big are these toads?
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my jealousy cannot be formed into words, was he part of the European import a year or two ago?
No, he was not part of the European imports. I don't think any of those made it over here as I was unable to find a match at that time as well. There were about three consecutive years of small imports ending about 5 years ago and he is from the last imports of that time (most of the prior years were picked up by ABG).

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Thanks for chiming in Ed!
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No, he was not part of the European imports. I don't think any of those made it over here as I was unable to find a match at that time as well. There were about three consecutive years of small imports ending about 5 years ago and he is from the last imports of that time (most of the prior years were picked up by ABG).

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I had always wondered what happened to those last american imports as little is ever said about them, I'm glad ABG acquire most of them.
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Nice! Atelopus are so beautiful... You can't really describe it unless you see them in person.

Even though you probably won't find a mate for him, at least he's in good hands.
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Amazing!!! How big are these toads?
Yeah really nice, how big do they get? Howcome you took him for a ride?
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He is a LTC import from a few years ago, I believe.

I've considered that Doug, but what to use as an oocyte host? Either way, with mitochondrial DNA any resulting offspring wouldn't be exact genotypic matches.
It seems like I remember seeing somewhere that you can use dinosaur DNA to fill in the gaps.
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hahaha... I'd likely use Xenopus since the oocytes are damn huge but hey, dino DNA works for me.
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Old 07-12-2010, 07:25 PM
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Yeah really nice, how big do they get? Howcome you took him for a ride?
He is about the size of a large bumblebee toad. This video will give you a very good estimate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T00cnsrsFiI

Picked him up in NJ while visiting the folks.... also came home with my first hyla.
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Cool pretty small, got some ebracatta too huh? Don't keep them anywhere near where you plan on sleeping haha...........
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haha, are they loud? My wife asked the question when I mentioned that they are noctural....should be reallll interesting.
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Yeah they got a nice sharp little call to 'em
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very nie Ray, hope you can get a mate for him soon.
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I had always wondered what happened to those last american imports as little is ever said about them, I'm glad ABG acquire most of them.
Little is ever said about them as they had slightly better luck than most of the people that aquired them but about the same luck in breeding them that I did (although they did get two infertile clutches). As in my case they lost the females before the males and when I asked about them about 2 years ago, they only had some males left.

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Cool pretty small, got some ebracatta too huh? Don't keep them anywhere near where you plan on sleeping haha...........
My ebracattus live across the hall from the bed room.. it isn't too bad unless they think it has been raining...

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Nice, I'm really digging them, love how they really use the large aroids to swing around their enclosure.


On another note, pretty interesting paper:
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Little is ever said about them as they had slightly better luck than most of the people that aquired them but about the same luck in breeding them that I did (although they did get two infertile clutches). As in my case they lost the females before the males and when I asked about them about 2 years ago, they only had some males left.

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I knew they had a lot of trouble with the females, would they fail to release the eggs and then die? that's what I seem to remember people saying.
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I knew they had a lot of trouble with the females, would they fail to release the eggs and then die? that's what I seem to remember people saying.
Or they would prolapse the eggs and die.

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YouTube - Atelopus spumarius 'hoogmoedi'
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Very nice, Ray. Now that signature needs a serious update .
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Cool to see how active it is.
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Sweet pics. What a gorgeous little guy!
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That is his roost. He climbs up there about 45 min before lights out and climbs down a bit after lights on, without fail, every day. Its freakishly cool.
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We need a Facebook-esque "Like" button. :-)
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I used to estimate when I had to do somethings by his actions..
Glad to see he has settled in so well for you and that you are enjoying him.

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Bump for those interested in working with this species....

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I was just talking to Ed about Atelopus! Wish my budget would allow me to get some.
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Ray,
I worked with and bred A. zetecki while I was at the Bronx Zoo. Does A. spumarius hoogmoedi wave also?

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Cool! No, they don't. That characteristic evolved due to the noise surrounding the rivers they inhabit. A. spumarius is a lowland species of Atelopus.

That said, they are still pretty damn cool.
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