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Old 07-11-2010, 10:08 PM
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Got them today at the whiteplains show and they are in qt right now. Feeding them was easier than I thought (only one escaped) although I think I gave them a little too much and a little too much supplement. They are in their QT now although only one of them is showing, the other is a hider.

Also, got three new plants and a fan which I might switch out for a bigger one that I can make with the DIY thread.











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Old 07-11-2010, 10:17 PM
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Tank looks great, frog looks beautiful!

Only suggestion I would make is to wrap that fan in screen so the frogs don't come in contact with the blades.
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Old 07-11-2010, 10:41 PM
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Tank looks great.... Congrats on your first frogs... so what's next on the list? I know you're probably already thinking of your next frogs. lol. You probably don't need the fan IMO, but if you want to leave it there, I agree with wrapping it in screen.



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Old 07-12-2010, 01:03 AM
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Congrats on getting your first frogs. Are they CR D. auratus?
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Old 07-12-2010, 01:36 AM
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Congrats on getting your first frogs. Are they CR D. auratus?
They're black and green auratus thats all I know.
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:02 AM
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Awesome viv and frogs! Auratus were going to be my first frogs.......
until I saw imis...

Good luck!
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I didn't notice them eating yet, maybe they got a few that went under the leafs were they've been hiding but I'm pretty confident I put too much flys in there. They are all just hanging out on the leaf I dumped them on, if I tap on the top of the container they go nuts and start running around.
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:50 AM
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I didn't notice them eating yet, maybe they got a few that went under the leafs were they've been hiding but I'm pretty confident I put too much flys in there. They are all just hanging out on the leaf I dumped them on, if I tap on the top of the container they go nuts and start running around.
Well, I know that some of my auratus are shy - they usually run and hide when I walk up to the tank. And since you just got yours, it's normal that they'd be really shy. I wouldn't worry to much - they are probably eating while you're not looking. Just watch them to make sure they are gaining weight and getting bigger.

And if you ever think that you've put too many flies in there, just wait a little longer before you add more flies. The flies in there will either get eaten or start to lay maggots, which will also get eaten. Some frogs even eat the dead flies.
So I wouldn't worry about that too much either.

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Old 07-12-2010, 10:46 PM
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Well, I took the frogs out of their QT today and just took all the flys out too, put the frogs back in and fed them a new and smaller group of flys (dusted of course). Also, the one that hides all the time is was out today but if I walk in the room or come near it he bolts back under the leafs. The other doesn't seem to care and just hops around.
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:52 PM
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Why did you take the out and put them back in?

Since they're settling in their new home (Or temporary one) you need to leave them alone, as much as possible (including watching them). They usually don't eat right away and may not eat for another day. Or two, I'm not sure

Auratus are one of the shyest frog. There's heavy discussion on how shy they are and which morphs are bolder than others. For example, it's believed that the Blue auratus is the boldest auratus.

Plenty of leaf litter and platns will provide cover for them and help them feel secure. ANd perhaps make them bolder, you'll have to wait, watch, and see

Good luck! it's exciting getting your first darts
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:09 PM
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My auratus hid under the moss in their QT. I never saw them. Most of the flies were left uneaten. Once I put them into their planted tank, they really blossomed. Hopping around, climbing all over the place.

Then they started to get shy again, so I put more vines in their tank and now they are out all of the time.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:21 PM
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I was really skeptical about taking them out to remove the flys but it was just bugging me. I understand they aren't the kind of frogs you should be moving around and stuff but I'm leaving them alone now, they ate they're second feeding, they're coming out more so hopefully they will start eating and getting bigger!
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:37 PM
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It's good that they're more active.

Auratus are a very nice dart frog. Good luck with them!
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Heres their setup....



Heres the two, the one on the right is the shy one....

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They are beauties.

Much more bold than mine were when they were in QT.
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They have been hiding all day now and don't touch the flys when I put them in there. I think they come out a night to eat because in the morning I notice some are gone. The flys clean them selves off before the frogs eat them so I feel like they aren't getting any supplement. I almost want to remove their hiding spot but I know it will stress them out too much to not have a place to go.
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I would leave them alone, they are probably getting plenty of supplement from your prior and future feedings.
If you are worried about too many flies in there just open the lid and shoo the flies out.

Congrats on your first frogs!

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Quick question,

what small leaf, vine type plant is that in the 3rd picture?
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I'm not really sure, I got it from black jungle at a reptile expo and I don't thnk it had a label.
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It looks like a small oak-leafed ficus from the leaves.

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I'm not really sure whats going on, I went on a small trip this weekend friday to sunday and didn't feed them on friday because they still hadn't finished what I gave them on wednesday when I fed them thursday. I came backtoday and there didn't seem to be anydifference in the ammount of flies. I had a banana as a feeding station in there which was almost completely decomposed which I thought was bad because of the gasses or what ever and there were like 3-4 maggots under it, I took it out. They are still quick but they are hiding all the time. Could it be too stressfull to be under the light or are they just not used to it? Would it be better to put them in a 10g (in a long format)?
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Do you have any vines that you could put in there to provide them with cover when they're out feeding? Maybe try moving the light farther away so it's not so bright on them.
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I have a vine I could put in there, I have the light like 9-10 inches above it because I thought it would be too bright. I'll move it away so its sort of indirect.
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Could it be too stressfull to be under the light or are they just not used to it?
I think that's exactly what's going on here.

The lights are far to bright for them. In our experience Auratus don't like a lot of light and prefer a more shaded viv. We found this out by accident. We have a group of 5 blue/bronze. We had 2 T5's lighting the viv. We never saw them. Maybe a glimpse here and there. 1 of the T5's burnt out and I meant to get around to replacing the bulb. Weeks went by.

Soon after the light burnt out we began seeing them more and more. We decided not to replace it. A while later and we can walk right up to the glass and they don't flinch.

I think the same could be said for Mantella's too. We have no lighting on there tanks at all and they're seen far more often now.

Try just letting them get ambient light and see what happens. It sure won't hurt them.
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