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Old 01-24-2010, 02:33 PM
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hi all,

Today I introduced myself in this thread. To avoid cluttering the thread, I show my second paludarium here.

I have always had a fascination for running water and hill streams - probably because we haven┤t any of those in the Netherlands. Our numerous trips to Scotland and other parts of Europe provide plenty of inspiration though.

Reading some pages on keeping hill stream loaches in fish tanks and about the ways strong water flows are made, I decided in spring 2008 to design a hill stream paludarium.

At the core of the idea is the creation of different water levels, divided by some large stones that would act as small dams. To get the water back to the pond pumps I put under the stream,I created a double floor. I hope the drawings make this more clear.

The size of the tank is 150cm long, 75cm broad and 120 to 160cm overall height (including the water in the belly of the tank). (That is 60x30x50 to 64 inches for the metrically impaired).






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Old 01-24-2010, 02:35 PM
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I ordered the glas (10mm and 6mm for the top) and glued the lower part of the tank, creating the double floor with some extra sheets of glass:



With the pond pumps in place:




Marco, a friend of mine, and I then glued foam and together with some rocks tried to get a nice flow.









Some painting:

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Old 01-24-2010, 02:38 PM
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Then the upper glas part was glued. Where to put the wood?


A dripping wall in the making:









Adding fern root and rainforest background (which proved to need more moist to keep it well, then provided in some parts)








first test:



detail:
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Old 01-24-2010, 02:41 PM
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First plants, mainly taken from my other tank.





Asplenium vivipara:


Cryptocoryne wendtii:


Detail of waterfall (now nearly invisible because of the plant growth)



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Cryptocoryne balansae
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Old 01-24-2010, 02:42 PM
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Some fish. This was quite tricky, as I knew no one who had experience with such a set up. As it turned out, the Gastromyzons thrive, as do the Shrimps (Atyopsis moluccensis). The Rasboras and Eutropellius loved the current for some time, but in the end there are too few calmer places.







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A local breeder adviced on Mannophryne trinitatis (3.3) as an ideal frog for this set-up. I added H. azureiventris, which I wouldn┤t do anymore. Lovely frogs and there is enough space for them, but they show themselves seldom. Mixing species in a tank is less of an issue overhere, but simplicity is often best.
On the other hand, I love the Hyperolius fusciventris I have (cb too). My Lygodactylus picturatus, who enjoy large areas of dry and warm conditions as well as UV light do really well. I have within a year at least 5 juveniles, but probably more (they hide in the ferns near the dripping wall).
























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wow
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what is that green frog, 6th from the bottom?
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beautiful..thats an amazing viv. very clean work.
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what is that green frog, 6th from the bottom?
I believe that is Hyperolius fusciventris.
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Wow I really love this one! The waterfall looks great, the realism of the entire thing flows so nicely.
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nice job
How long did it take to make
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Thank you all for your kind words!

That is the Hyperolius fusciventris indeed!

I took a few months to figure out how to do it (dec 2007-march 2008) and then a few months to build the structure (up to sept 2008). The interior was done within a few weeks - when the end of projects comes near, I tend to use more hours...

That said, there were week I did absolutely nothing.
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WOW- beautiful I love that green frog
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Stunning. I am SO glad to see a mixed species tank! I wish americans were not so narrow mided on this topic some times. It really would enhance things in my opinion.
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excellent set-up!! great pictures documenting the build!! was there a certain particular place in europe that was the inspiration for this? lets see more overseas tanks!!!!
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Very nice looking viv
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Very well done vivarium and excellent attention to detail! Two thumbs way up!
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Very nice! I am always impressed by the custom vivs I see from our Euro friends.
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Wow this has to be one of the best thought out tanks ive ever seen! I have to commend you on your work. Great job!
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ZING! I want that in my house! Nice work!
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sweet. It's interesting that you didn't make the sides and back, along the top, as one piece with the bottom. What made you decide to glue those on?
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Thank you all for your kind words!

For me the building of this viv was a way to test the viability of the entire idea of a hill stream paludarium using pond pumps. The answer is now: it is a good idea and it works!

It actually works so nice that I am now planning to build a new, larger one which will replace the present one.

I┤ll post the work in progress in another thread.


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sweet. It's interesting that you didn't make the sides and back, along the top, as one piece with the bottom. What made you decide to glue those on?
That was to get the pieces of glass safe in the room (upstairs). 150x165cm is just too large to handle in our house.
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excellent set-up!! great pictures documenting the build!! was there a certain particular place in europe that was the inspiration for this? lets see more overseas tanks!!!!

I have a real passion for Scotland (just like a rainforest, just a bit colder ). In the Kilninver area in Argyll I made a lot of photographs for inspiration and I took the pieces of rock for the tank (as much as I could get in the car, through my wifes security inspection ).

A lot of the photographs on my site show the way I see the smaller landscapes, which are always inspiring for working in the tank.
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I think this thread should be used as a example on how to properly mix. Its perfect. When you have a tank this big you can try to mix. I think this was done 100% in the correct means of mixing. Awesome! Just Awesome !!! Job well done.
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Love the tank Wim

Allready saw it on the Dutch (im dutch too) forum a while ago, but i didn't saw the construction of it.
Keep up the good work, and maybe we will get to meet sometimes.
I'm starting with my palu so i can get all the info i can get

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I have to say your are a master designer/builder of vivs. Your threads are so detailed and well done. Thank you for sharing your vivs with us.
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Awesome tank!

do you know the name of this plant I circled?

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hi John, thanks for the compliments. It is a Mimosa pudica (it blooms very nicely with purple flower 'globes' - just search for Mimosa in wikipedia). This lovely plant folds its leaves when touched.



hi Vincent, feel free to contact me and have a look in real life!


thank you all for your encouraging words!
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awesome! thanks for the name of that plant. I just bought some seeds. Hopefully I can grow them successfully in my viv
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WOW! Stunning, easily one of my favorite vivs. thanks for sharing
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I see those mimosas for sale all the time. Might have to try one. Aernt they an annual?



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You Europeans.... Always knocking it right out of the park. Great viv.
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I see those mimosas for sale all the time. Might have to try one. Aernt they an annual?
In my viv I have them since October 2008, so not really annual. But even then there is plenty of seed (it is I believe self-fertile). Great looking plant!
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Your work is outstanding. I love your naturalistic take on your setups, and the amount of care and planning taken into play.

Agian, outstanding. Feel free to visit my site in my signature and check out some of my work as well!
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Love the tank what kind of Lizard is that
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hi Nick, thanks for your comments! There seem to be some connection problems to your site at the moment, but I┤ll check later.

@Vivbuilder - that is a Lygodactylus picturatus. They really need dry and warm parts in the viv, so most PDF tanks won┤t do. But they are lovely animals.
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What is the brownish frog above the Hyperolius fusciventris?
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Awesome tank! lovely inhabitants

It's a fantastic tank, have you mixed species before?
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What is the brownish frog above the Hyperolius fusciventris?
In the series you see a picture of the Mannophryne, than the H. azureiventris and then some juveline Hyperolius and a mature one.
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