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Old 01-27-2009, 05:42 PM
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I don't know if anyone remembers my old Paludarium here. It's been a while since I posted pictures of it.







Here it was way back maybe a year ago.

I decided to convert it into a vertical tank since I didnt have much vertical space with this 40gal breeder. So I tore it down several months ago and threw most of the plants away especially that creeping fig. That thing covered my tank! I saved the broms and tillys and put them in a separate tank.

After a lot of reading, research and planning. I Started on the conversion.


I sketched it out on Google's sketchup software. First, I had to tackle the cabinets that I had to build to fill both sides of the viv and the top. I didnt want all that extra space to go to waste.

With my excitement and busy schedule I forgot to take construction pics of the cabinets and the viv itself

The two on the sides are regular cabinets made from plywood. Cut them with a circular saw, sanded, glued and nailed together, painted and stained them.

The one on the top is where I mounted my AHsupply lights from the old Paludarium.


So here's what the viv looked like after it was all done.

I siliconed tree fern panels on the background along with some cork barks. I filled the gaps with Great stuff and covered that with concrete binder mixed with peat moss. Oh and i smeared some mushed up aquasoil mixed with sphagnum moss on the fern panels. That's what that brown mud is on the back wall.

I decided to go with a Euro style vents at the bottom. I used Lexan to make it since it's easier to drill holes through it for my drain and so I can run my misting and fogger underneath the false bottom. (I have a more close up pics of the vent if you scroll down some more)

The driftwood in the center is from the old Paludarium, I just had to saw off some of it's branches since they were too long.











I ran the misting tubes under the false bottom and behind the tree fern panels, then I silicone it to the top of the viv. I just used regular misting nozzle from homedepot. I dont need the more expensive nozzles to water the plants. I also installed a valve so I can control how much water is getting pumped out of the nozzles.

The tubing for the fogger also went underneath the false bottom and up the right side of the viv, behind the cork bark and tree ferns. Then I siliconed it behind the black trim of the tank in the front. It's hard to see it. I'll show you more pics of it later. I also installed a shut off valve on this so I can control the amount of fog coming out of the tubes.


So here's the viv back on the stand with all the cabinets on it.




Here's a more close up pic of the vent with all the tubes and fans(the fans arent point straight forward, they're tilted up, I just put the covers on the back like that to prop them up) hooked up.




Here's some close up pics of the top just incase you were wondering on what I did with the top vents.

I didnt like the look of the screen door type of vent. It didnt look 'clean' enough for me. So I cut a piece of Lexan, grab my boring bit and bored five 1 3/4" holes. I cut out some screening in circles, went and got some black rubber gaskets and siliconed them on the holes. Im really pleased on how it turned out





The front of the viv is one big piece of glass I cut out. I didnt want to use Lexan since I scratches so easily. I drilled two small holes on the sides and screw in small piece of lexan to lock the glass door in place


The substrate I used is a mixture of peat moss+perlite+sphagnum moss+orchid bark











Here's a close up pic of the misting system.








And as promised, a close up pic of the fogging tube I silicone in the inside of the viv.


Fogger is on


after about 5 mins


pic of the cool mist humidifier i rigged up (i got the idea from of the users in here)


pic of the whole set up


This vivarium is FAR from done. Im still in the planning stages of it. I just threw in the old broms I had from the paludarium. They arent looking tip top since I just had them in a small container But just having been there for a few days, they're starting to show their red colors again and sprouting roots all over.

I'll update you guys ones I get plants in there. Im thinking of filling it with lots of broms, mini orchids, ferns, tillys and begonias.

Make sure to keep and eye out for the updates
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Old 01-27-2009, 05:49 PM
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That looks amazing already man! I love vivs that have 3 sides covered well done
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Old 01-27-2009, 05:52 PM
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That is going to be an awesome viv. Can't wait to see the progress.
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You did your research, thats for sure. Well done! I look forward to the plant out of this.


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that's gonna grow in real nice. sweet setup
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Nice job, great set-up and photo's. keep us posted.
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looks great!! i love the old style too. i think that tree trunk makes a great center piece.
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Looks good. I can give you the OT discount and send you some plant cuttings once its warmer outside.
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I keep seeing my humidifier in other peoples' houses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i did a double-take again like when i saw it like in capitale's thread haha that whole system looks sick man! what are you planning on keeping in there?
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Looks great! I like both of them too bad you had to take the old one appart
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Just curious as to why you added perlite?
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Looks great! Cant wait to see it grown in.
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looks great!! i love the old style too. i think that tree trunk makes a great center piece.
Yeah, that thing set me back $50-$60 from eBay

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Looks good. I can give you the OT discount and send you some plant cuttings once its warmer outside.
SOWEETT! do you have an online store?

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I keep seeing my humidifier in other peoples' houses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i did a double-take again like when i saw it like in capitale's thread haha that whole system looks sick man! what are you planning on keeping in there?
ahaha! that humidifier is perfect, it's so easy to rig it and also it's pretty cheap. Im not planning on keeping anything in there for now because of my busy schedule. Just plants for now. Who knows I might change my mind when it's fully planted

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Looks great! I like both of them too bad you had to take the old one appart
yeah i had to take it down after seeing so many great vertical tanks here! I got jealous with all the vertical space you guys had for plants to grow in. Plus that creeping fig was taking over the place, it even managed to climb out of the canopy!

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Just curious as to why you added perlite?
just for extra drainage. I ran out of orchid bark, so I threw in some perlite

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Wow! That is a great re-build!, Three sided vivs really add to the depth and give you that feeling of being in the jungle imo. Good job on the build journal as well. What are the dimensions of that tank?

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Excellent! Thanks for the detailed documentation! This is going to look great grown in! Good luck!
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Wow! That is a great re-build!, Three sided vivs really add to the depth and give you that feeling of being in the jungle imo. Good job on the build journal as well. What are the dimensions of that tank?

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it's a standard 40gal breeder tank. 36 inches long by 18 inches deep by 17 inches high
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The tank looks great. Please post some pics of it when it is fully planted.
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Awesome tank. I also the way you covered the 3 walls.

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The viv looks awesome. I liked it the other way as well. I also really like the 3 sides with backgorund on them. I've been doing that lately. By any chance do you know what type of would that stump is?
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Wow! Very nice viv! Very well built
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The viv looks awesome. I liked it the other way as well. I also really like the 3 sides with backgorund on them. I've been doing that lately. By any chance do you know what type of would that stump is?
no, sorry i dont know it. It's been years since I got that stump on eBay

heres pics of it when I first got it


FRONT


BOTTOM

the hole that you see in my vert now is around the back of the stump, which goes all the way through the bottom of it. It's pretty neat
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Very awesome. I have six 40 breeder verts to finish soon and I love the inspiration. I was going to do 3 sides covered on each, but am opting for just one since I have so many to do. Once again, excellent stuff!
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Very awesome. I have six 40 breeder verts to finish soon and I love the inspiration. I was going to do 3 sides covered on each, but am opting for just one since I have so many to do. Once again, excellent stuff!
thanks, man! post up some pics when you're done with them. I wish I had more room for more tanks. These 40gal breeder tanks are like the perfect dimensions for a viv. try doing a few of them 3 sided, some 2 or whatever. Just dont rush the job, you'll regret it later on.
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a little update:

I replaced the old mist nozzles that I reused from the old Paludarium because they werent spraying right. Probably got clogged up. Oh well, they were cheap anyway. So I went to ace hardware and found some nice brass mist nozzles. I got 4 of them for only $7-8...not bad






Oh and also I noticed a plant growing out of the cork bark so I took a picture of it. I have no clue what plant it is. Sorry for the unclear pics, the camera was having a hard time trying to focus on this tiny leaf.







Does anyone have any idea what it is? I noticed a few more growing on the tree fern panels.
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Yeah those little tiny 2 leaf stems pop up from time to time in mine also usually in a potted plant or near where I put one in a tank, no idea what they are though. they don't hang around too long
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Great job. I am getting to really like vivs that have their green balanced by brown-- all the wood really adds structure.
I was wondering about the nozzles. Do you have any type of filter before the water goes in?

As for that seedling, until you get true leaves, id. is impossible.
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Great job. I am getting to really like vivs that have their green balanced by brown-- all the wood really adds structure.
I was wondering about the nozzles. Do you have any type of filter before the water goes in?

As for that seedling, until you get true leaves, id. is impossible.
nah, just straight from the pump out the nozzles. I dont think i really need one since Im not using any expensive nozzles here.
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I finally got some plants ordered.
















This one was listed for $0.00! so Im assuming it was free! ahaha I got a couple of them.





They havent come yet, I just put the order in. I cant wait to put them in the viv

My next order of plants should be broms and begonias.
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Nice! I've always been a fan of tillies! You have quite a few colors represented here!
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yeah I love their colors. I was going to grab a few more but the ones I wanted were sold out
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I ain't much when it comes to darts...but I would watch those brass misters...The brass can leach copper

I am huge into reefs and one brass nozzle took out an entire tank of a fellow reefer...jmo, but use caution...
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thanks for the warning! but im not going to keep frogs in this one. If i decided to though, I'll keep it in mind to switch out the nozzles.
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hey can you post the plant names and where you got them i really love the colors
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I got them from Plant Oddities

Tillandsia aeranthos miniata-Single Plants
Tillandsia concolor-Small Plants 4-5in.
Tillandsia fuchsii forma gracilis
Tillandsia brachycaulus miniata
Tillandsia ionantha-Guatemalan Form
Tillandsia "Houston"- Stricta x recurvifolia
Tillandsia neglecta x stricta
Tillandsia tenuifolia-Bronze Tip-Single Plants
Tillandsia stricta-"J.R. Hybrid"

in that order of the pictures



I also got this one, I just forgot to post it, it's called Tillandsia andreana

They have a great selection and they offer free shipping too. If you cant find some of these plants, look at the top of each page there's a button there to take you to the next page. I didnt noticed that button at first OR some of these are in their "hybrid" section.
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WOW! Cool site! Did you see the plant collections? 20 species of Tillies to your door for $20 . . . crazy! I'll be going here next time! Thanks for the link!
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yeah but I really wanted to be specific on that plants that go in my viv. I dont want just random things being thrown in there.
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Definitely! I'm just saying that's crazy cheap! I might get a pack just to put around my house! I'm certain they won't be anywhere as nice as the ones you picked.
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Oh no doubt it's a great deal and Im sure they'll throw in some nice ones in there too
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wow thats a great site im gonna send out an order today
thanks for the names and the link.
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