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Old 12-26-2008, 10:21 PM
 
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Today I bought my first dart frog from LLLReptiles. It's a D. Leucomela, here are some pictures.
Temp= 74F, humidity= 80-85%
I'm going to be adding some drift wood and leaf litter. Once i can find some.

plants
- Pothos
-Bromeliad
-some air plant
-the pink plant, which I forgot its name. Hypo something..


Sorry for the bad pics, I also have a little more planting to do. Going to add some sort of ivy.


right side

left side

cool plant thats in there


Far away shot of froggy.
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Old 12-26-2008, 10:27 PM
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Cool, is there some type of glass lid on there to keep the humidity extremely high?
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Old 12-26-2008, 10:43 PM
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Just an FYI. LLLreptiles mixes their frogs. Might want to do some QT and fecals. I'd be cautious about buying frogs from reptile dealers.
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It's screen but 3/4ths is covered in ceramic wrap stuff. So the humidity stays in pretty well. Also I mist 3-5 times a day.
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Just an FYI. LLLreptiles mixes their frogs. Might want to do some QT and fecals. I'd be cautious about buying frogs from reptile dealers.
I've been in there about 5 times, and your right, for the most part. Never have I seen them mix leucs though, they've always been in they're own tank. They mix most of the other species though.
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It's screen but 3/4ths is covered in ceramic wrap stuff. So the humidity stays in pretty well. Also I mist 3-5 times a day.
3-5 times is a little much. Spray less often. Maybe 1 or 2 times a day.
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I've been in there about 5 times, and your right, for the most part. Never have I seen them mix leucs though, they've always been in they're own tank. They mix most of the other species though.
How do you know that they wern't mixed at one point? I doubt their store is where they breed their frogs. They could of been mixed when they were young.
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Add some leaf litter in there as well, darts hate it when dirt gets stuck to their body.
Even if LLLreptile doesn't mix, I know they have a ton of WC animals, both amphibians and reptiles, so it could have been easily transfered.
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How do you know that they wern't mixed at one point? I doubt their store is where they breed their frogs. They could of been mixed when they were young.
I don't, I'm not trying to start an argument.
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That's not my intention. Im just trying to inform you, because I care about the safety of your frogs.
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ok thanks.

Are Magnolia leaves ok to use as leaf litter?
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Magnolia leaves are great for vivs because they are so oily, which makes them last longer. I bake mine for 30 minutes at 350.
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My mom doesn't think i should bake. She thinks It'll catch fire. Even though it probaly won't, do you think i could boil it, then freeze it instead?
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Lol, I have let the oven catch fire many times. It stays contained though, but I understand your moms concern. You can boil them, and if you don't need to freezing them as well. You should save some of the excess tea, as it makes great water for tads.
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Will do =)

A little off topic, but regaurding lighting, how many watts should I have for lighting?

And can I just use a fluorescent bulb?
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I just use the standart 2$ florescent bulbs from wal-mart or Home depot. I have no idea what their wattage is, but any standard florescent bulb will do.
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And what are your temperatures with that bulb? Assuming thats your only lighting/ way of heating.


OT- Are those your frogs in your picture? so funny =)
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Temps with standart florsecents are about 2F higher than the ambient room temp. Its good that they don't produce a lot of heat because a lot of people use glass tops and they would crack if florescents produced a lot of heat.

Those are my frogs They are quite friendly towards eachother.
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Then what lights should I use to heat the tank up like +5F?


The pic is hilarious, I've seen it around before. They look like they have a lot of personality. Are they actually "breeding" in that pic? Or is that just what it looks like?
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T5's would work fine, so would T8's.

The two frogs in my avatar are actually both boys, they were in quarentine and I found them like this one day so decided to snap a shot. A lot of treefrogs are some what "communal" and like to hang out on eachother
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I love it....


I just bought a pack of 4 bulbs for $2. It just says, "bright pleasant light", 34 watts. Would this(just a plain old house light) be sufficient for a dart frog?
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That should suffice. Generally the bulbs with a bluer or whiter light are better for plants, try to stay away from ones that have a yellow or pink tinge.
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Alright thanks. I'll keep that in mind.

Today I added leaf litter. Oak leaves, all the magnolia were gone =( lol.
I don't think I'll be seeing mr. froggy for a while.
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Leucs are pretty bold, the leaf litter will just make him feel more secure initially, but probably bolder in the long run Good luck with your little guy.
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I just fed him, he doesn't really chase the flies, do they usually? When they're next to him he eats them fast. But there was a few out of his reach and he just watched. So I just kept pouring flies infront of him.

Also, I didn't dust these with calcium. I'm not really sure how, I have the calcium but how do I dust them?

Also, It's "reptile" calcium, the guy at Lllreptile said it would work, is this true?
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Some frogs chase flies, some don't. It depends on the frog and how hungery it is. As long as he is eating thats fine.

To dust the flies I usually just use a 16 oz. fruit fly cup with a pinch of powder in it and then tap the flies in. If you don't have a container you can use a bag, but there will probably be more escapes with a bag. Then just "shake and bake."

Do you know what the calcium supplement is called? Rep-cal is one of the better ones for reptiles which also works for amphibs. You will also need a vitiman supplement as well, and Herptivite works well for that. And remember to change out your supplements after 6 months, because after that 6 months they are no good.
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I have on that is calcium with d3, which is reptocal.

And another one that is just calcium, which is some other wierrd thing.

Should I always just use the calcium w/d3?
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Yeah, the Rep-cal will give the animal all the calcium it needs, you don't want to give it too much calcium.
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okay.

Tommorrow I'm going to LLL reptile again. I'm thinking of setting up my other 10 gallon more properly then switching my leuc over to it.
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There is definetily a learning curve in tank making, but I think you could just alter your current tank instead of making a new one. The simplest and cheapest way I make tanks is just throw about an inch of spahgnum in with a slab of cork, some slate, one or two broms/potted plant, and a bunch of clippings of fig, pothos, pilea ect. Its really simple and they usually end up growing in nicely.
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I just collected some roots. They look real nice, I think I'll make a nice tree branch effect with them.
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