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Old 11-05-2017, 05:27 PM
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Hello, this is my first vivarium build, I really like the vivariums that are built around the concept of roots, so this is my attempt in doing something like that. The vivarium is 60x40x50cm, has a false bottom separated from the substrate with a gardening mesh.
I will shortly order the plants, this built will not have tons of colorful bromeliads, maybe only one. Also I'll start with a few plants cause I think that too many plants don't look very natural. Let me know what you guys think so far.


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I really like the look. I have the same view as you on planting. I rarely use over 3-4 different plants. Look forward to the progress.

Which frogs are you going with?
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Thank you. I'll probably be getting a trio of Anthonyi, even though their loud call concerns me a bit since the tank is in my bedroom. Or a trio of Ventrimaculata. I have time to decide, since I want to let the plants grow for a couple months and see if everything is ok. I'll update the thread when the plants arrive!
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Thank you. I'll probably be getting a trio of Anthonyi, even though their loud call concerns me a bit since the tank is in my bedroom. Or a trio of Ventrimaculata. I have time to decide, since I want to let the plants grow for a couple months and see if everything is ok. I'll update the thread when the plants arrive!
I've heard having Anthonyi in a place of sleep is not recommended haha. Vents aren't as loud I don't think. However, you'd see the Anthonyi a lot more
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I've heard that too haha! I think they're underrated, and are very cheap compared to other frogs.
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I've heard that too haha! I think they're underrated, and are very cheap compared to other frogs.
Why not just some Leucs? Bold. Loud, good color. Not to mention the price one those have come down quite a bit even the Fine Spots.
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I have the fine spots. They are beautiful. They are in a grow out tank. Can't comment on the noise as they haven't started calling. I have 2 sun conures that are extremely loud and are up at sun rise making noise. Even though they are downstairs I can hear them, so I have no choice but to tune it out. Although, I am usually up before sunrise anyway.
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I agree, leucs are beautiful as well. Man there are so many options! Guess I'll be deciding while the vivarium grows, anyway thank you for the advice. And Joe I can really imagine how loud they are haha
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I really like the set up, is this any specific type of wood or did you collect it/disinfect it yourself?

I have 5 anthonyi in a viv in my bedroom (2nd floor). They are just starting to call... they will be moving into the basement. Mine start calling at like 7:00 (lights on at 8:30am) and will continue to call until 10:00 (lights off at 8:30pm). They are amazing little frogs though. I'm trying to redden them up with Repashy superpig.
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Thank you. Those are real roots that I collected from a tree that was about to be cut down, they stuck out (I'm not sure if this is how you say it, so bear with me) from the ground. After that I baked them to sterilize them. I hope they do a nice effect.
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I like that their directionality leads the eye to what could be a focal point in the bottom right hand corner. Don't miss out on making the most of this when planting or positioning the rest of your hardscape!
Also worth considering what this will do in terms of visual balance. Offset the focal point with visually 'heavy' elements (larger / darker plants, rocks, etc) on the left and I think you could be in for a very striking composition.
Excited to see where this is headed!
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I like that their directionality leads the eye to what could be a focal point in the bottom right hand corner. Don't miss out on making the most of this when planting or positioning the rest of your hardscape!
Also worth considering what this will do in terms of visual balance. Offset the focal point with visually 'heavy' elements (larger / darker plants, rocks, etc) on the left and I think you could be in for a very striking composition.
Excited to see where this is headed!
Thank you for the suggestion!
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Great set up, esp. when it is your first!
Have you thought about covering the sides, or use them in another way (piece of rock, stump whatever?
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Great set up, esp. when it is your first!
Have you thought about covering the sides, or use them in another way (piece of rock, stump whatever?
Thank you! Well, I was thinking of adding some rocks on the sides actually, but they won't be covered completely. I agree that they may little empty though, at least for the moment.
P.s. Your builds are truly spectacular!
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Little update: months have passed, I've been busy and was waiting a good moment to finally order the plants. Well, some plants finally arrived! As soon as the plants arrived I proceeded to put them in the viv to recover a bit from the journey, in fact here in Sicily is starting to become really hot. The only plant that I planted was the monstera cutting, since it wasn't planted. In a few days I'll plant the rest. Let me know of you have any suggestions!

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The plants are:
Monstera acuminata
Syngonium wendlandii
Neoregelia fireball mini (a lot smaller than I thought)
A Costa Rican plant

As I said, in this viv I'll be planting only a small variety for now.


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Planted! Really hope the plants don't die, I planted them with the dirt they came with directly into the soil. Now if everything goes alright I'll leave the viv grow for several months. Still haven't planted the brom yet, simply cause I don't really know how. Any suggestions?

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Little update. Thr plants are all starting to grow, surprisingly they are all doing pretty good! Now I only have to wait till they cover all the viv with leaves. Also, wanted to ask if you guys could help with an identification. So, the tank is completely filled with these tiny silvery shiny insects. They are REALLY small, and they are everywhere on the ground and in the background. When I touch them with the tip of a pen they jump and they seem to float on water. I'll try to snap a photo with my phone so sorry for the quality. I was thinking they might be silver springtails but I wouldn't know how they got there.


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Congratulations....you have springtails. It must a little wet where you live.
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Thought I'd do a little update. The viv hasn't changed much, but the plants are growing. I was thinking of actually do another plant order. Philondendron verrucosum (that is pretty expensive I should add!) and some other plant like some pilea would look good in my opinion. I'm still not sure if I should get moss though. Anyway, here are a few pics.

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time to let it grow in
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Update:
Time has passed and I'm still without frogs! On a side note the Viv changed a bit. Temperatures here increased quite a bit and I started misting more. I'd like some variety in foliage, so maybe I'll place an order for new plants I'm not still sure. Anyway, some photos.
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The Viv looks great!
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I have a Begonia Lana in one of mine. Nice color change with the leaves and seems to be doing very well. This time of year you should be able to pick it up at the garden centers.
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Update:

Viv grows, added couple plants. I'm not sure if I want to eliminate the monstera acuminata since I don't like the look too much, I feel it doesn't fit in the central American look that I'd like to achieve. I hope you can see the photos.

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Update:

I've added two new plants, cissus amazonica and anthurium scandens. I really look forward on the anthurium, it will (hopefully) grow a ton of aerial roots, which is what I would really like.

I've also started culturing fruit flies for a month now and had pretty good results! I've noticed that they like the media a little more on the moist side, almost like thick cream of you will. I think I'll make two cultures biweekly which should be enough for at maximum 3 ranitomeya. The cups I culture them in are I think 400 ml, on the forum I saw that the majority of folks culture them in 32 oz cups which should be almost 1000 ml (?), I hope my cups aren't too small.
My first culture had TONS of mites but the second ones are apparently mite free for the moment. I'm also starting to culture dwarf white isopods and springtails, I'll be seeding them in the viv soon.

I hope the quality of the photos doesn't distort. That's all for now, cheers!

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Great job! Looks very nice!
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Awesome! I think you might have Syngonium Rayii in there as opposed to Wendlandii. Looks like its growing really well!
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I think you might be right. Thank you. Everytime I buy new plants for this tank and let them settle for a few weeks I feel the urge to buy more! It's pretty addicting, and one can have more value in plants than the rest!

On that note I was thinking I may be needing some medium sized leaf plant that doesn't get huge to have more surface for the future inhabitants to go on, othen than that I have a philodendron Vine and a vining peperomia on my list.
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Its a beautiful plant, I'm jealous of how well its growing in for you!
Heres a side by side comparison of my Wendlandii (top) vs Rayii (bottom) if its helpful. I see them getting confused for each other both ways all the time. The Rayii has much more velvety leaves.

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Its a beautiful plant, I'm jealous of how well its growing in for you!

Heres a side by side comparison of my Wendlandii (top) vs Rayii (bottom) if its helpful. I see them getting confused for each other both ways all the time. The Rayii has much more velvety leaves.



Thank you very much for posting that photo! The difference is very clear.

I'm not sure if was just for me, but I noticed how this plant grew relatively slowly, the nice thing though is that it arrived in every part of the viv.
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I really love the depth of the background. Nice work!
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I like the tree root background, looks really good.
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Update:

I booked a pair of ranitomeya amazonica iquitos for the December date of Hamm. The vendor assured me they were a 1.1, I hope that's true. So I wanted to ask here if I'm good to go. The situation is as follows:

The fruit fly production is stable, I've been culturing them a month and a half and it's gone pretty well honestly. I'm culturing dwarf white isopods as well as springtails. One note on the springtails, the previous culture (the only culture I had) suddenly died, and I don't know why. I feed them fish food and rice. I think it might have been lack of air, the container I keep them in is the same one they were shipped in. A little plastic container without holes. In the new cultures I poked several holes with a needle. Am I doing something wrong?

Temperatures:
So where I live it's getting pretty cool. I'm in the 17(62) range for the moment but it will obviously go down in the next months. So I put a heat pad, connected to a thermostat, on the side of the viv. I'm registering 20(68) on the viv floor, 22(71) degrees in the middle section and 25(77) degrees in the upper portion of the viv. Obviously the temperatures are a bit higher right in the proximity of the glass heated by the pad. Is the fact that there's not a steady temperature throughout all the viv a problem?

Humidity:
I don't have an igrometer, or better I have one but I don't trust it at all (it registers 99% in the viv and high 70% in the room). The viv looks a tad dryer since I put the heat pad, I mist by hand in the morning (and since I have the heat pad in the evening as well) and it dries in a couple hours. I honestly think the humidity is alright, if I open the viv and smell it I sense this fresh earthy and plant smell. Should I be worried about the humidity?

Lastly, I built a little polysterene insulated box, in which I have a little 5 watt heat pad connected to a thermostat, to put the flies, springtails and isopdos in. I did this because I read a dozens times on the forum that the production of these feeders declines when temperatures drop, so I'm going to keep them at 22 (71).

Am I missing something? Are the parameters correct?
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I booked a pair of ranitomeya amazonica iquitos for the December date of Hamm. The vendor assured me they were a 1.1, I hope that's true. So I wanted to ask here if I'm good to go. The situation is as follows:

The fruit fly production is stable, I've been culturing them a month and a half and it's gone pretty well honestly. I'm culturing dwarf white isopods as well as springtails. One note on the springtails, the previous culture (the only culture I had) suddenly died, and I don't know why. I feed them fish food and rice. I think it might have been lack of air, the container I keep them in is the same one they were shipped in. A little plastic container without holes. In the new cultures I poked several holes with a needle. Am I doing something wrong?

Temperatures:
So where I live it's getting pretty cool. I'm in the 17(62) range for the moment but it will obviously go down in the next months. So I put a heat pad, connected to a thermostat, on the side of the viv. I'm registering 20(68) on the viv floor, 22(71) degrees in the middle section and 25(77) degrees in the upper portion of the viv. Obviously the temperatures are a bit higher right in the proximity of the glass heated by the pad. Is the fact that there's not a steady temperature throughout all the viv a problem?

Humidity:
I don't have an igrometer, or better I have one but I don't trust it at all (it registers 99% in the viv and high 70% in the room). The viv looks a tad dryer since I put the heat pad, I mist by hand in the morning (and since I have the heat pad in the evening as well) and it dries in a couple hours. I honestly think the humidity is alright, if I open the viv and smell it I sense this fresh earthy and plant smell. Should I be worried about the humidity?

Lastly, I built a little polysterene insulated box, in which I have a little 5 watt heat pad connected to a thermostat, to put the flies, springtails and isopdos in. I did this because I read a dozens times on the forum that the production of these feeders declines when temperatures drop, so I'm going to keep them at 22 (71).

Am I missing something? Are the parameters correct?
Thank you for your patience in reading this.
I bump these questions posting another update of the tank.

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Unfortunately the monstera lost some leaves, and the addition of the heat pad dryes the air more.
I might be exaggerating with leaf litter.

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You may want to change the airflow mesh you have on the bottom. The holes look pretty big and you might have fruit flies escaping. Or you could back it with#24 mesh.
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You are absolutely right, It's already on the list.
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