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Old 10-30-2004, 10:51 PM
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This guys' got pipes!
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Nice Pic Randy very cool.
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Randy,
Nice shot. Post more when you get 'em.
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Thanks for the nice comments, guys. This little boy is pretty photogenic, so I think I'll be getting lots more of him
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Very nice Randy!
We are going to have to meet up again when we both have free time.
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Randy,
Great pic.What morph of pumilio is it?
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I've asked several large-scale breeders what morph this is, and all 3 agree that it looks to be Cayo de Agua. The other ones in my collection have much more yellow on the underside than the male. I'll try getting some shots of them later this week.


You said it, Ben! Maybe we all could hook up this upcoming weekend since I don't have any work scheduled. I'll try getting hold of you during the week. Talk to you later!
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Very cool, I hope to hear mine call one day.
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Randy is that frog from the recent imports?
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This guy and a few others came in a few months ago, and I got the opportunity to pic a few oddballs out that happen to come in by chance. They're currently taking care of several tads, so I hope to see a few froglets in the coming weeks.
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If that frog came in any of the imports (starting in July) then it probably is not Cayo de Agua. There were several different variations of what people are now referring to as Bruno. One of the variants had no spots on the back and no yellow on the stomach and was identical to your frog. There is a picture in the new Christmann books (Volume III pg. 337) of the morph as well with a spotted and no spotted pictured. The only Cayo de Agua that came in were with the UMich professor.
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Would you happen to have a picture of the one in that volume? I'd love to get some comparison shots so that I can show them to the larger breeders again. I'd like to know exactly what these guys are Just to reiterate, the male shown here has very little yellow coloration ventrally, the others ones in my collection (especially the females) show a distinct yellow underside, identical to the ones pictured on the Frye's website. I'll try getting a pic up this weekend that will show a little more pattern detail.
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I can't post a picture from the book for copyright reasons, but here is a picture of a 'bruno" with no spots that came from the recent imports.

In a lot of cases the legs are a little more blue than the picture shows. The stomach color was variable in all the animals, some no yellow, others almost solid. In the earlier shipments there were about equal numbers of no-spots, fine spotted and large spotted. Don't know about the more recent ones.

The easiest way to know what you have is find out if it came from the farm in Panama via the recent imports or if it came from someone else. Outside of smuggling there have only been a few shipments that it could have come from. If it came from the farm, it isn't Cayo de Agua. I believe the Fryes are the only ones that got animals (amoung them Cayo de Agua) from the UMich study.
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Hey Randy,
I have the books, remind me to bring them if we do meet up this weekend.
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