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Old 02-10-2007, 01:46 AM
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Here is a pic of my female man creek. I'm hoping she's gravid. if she is then hopefully she'll give it up for my poor male who calls his head off like there is no tomorrow. So far I've no witnessed anything remotely looking like she's interested. So the question is, do you think she's gravid?

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Its hard to tell but if I were to geuss I would say no. My male is fatter then that female and the female is even fatter. Dont lose hope though they will breed eventually.
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Yeah, not gravid. Heck, my male cayo is fatter than my female!
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That photo doesn't tell you where the weight really is... its hard to explain, but a fat frog carries the weight differently than a female bloated with eggs... the fat bodies in the frogs' bodies make the belly hang, while the eggs make them look more like they are puffed up like balloons... its also not all that obvious in pumilio.
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Updated pic of the female from a little different angle.


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Just give up on them ever breeding for you and this is what you get
http://www.dendroboard.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=24884
I had a lonley girl for about a year and found a "Proven Pair" that both started calling out of the box? (I think the box was labeled sucker!) I think by giving her a bigger choice and narrowing it down was the ticket. She had three males to choose from. She chose the britest red male I would say your frog is or not gravid, its hard to tell and mine have only just began breeding. She was alot fatter a while back before all the boyfriends. Just watch for the stomping dance the male makes and the female sticking around to watch him. The girls love that fancy footwork :lol: Best of luck

(also you might want to mist them with code red)LOL

Disclaimer: the prevoius statement is intended for entertainment only do not try this in your frogs home.

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The bad part with pumilio is that the real rule with sexing them is if it calls, its male. If there are two in the tank, one calls, and you get fertile eggs, the other is female by default. That's pretty much it.

Not calling doesn't mean much, could just as easily be a non-dominant male, although the technique used by Patrick Nabors (place new male in well lit new environment and usually it will call) will help you ID males a better/faster than tossing a few males in a tank and seeing who calls (usually only the most dominant) so there is nothing sure about it. Shape is misleading due to how much we over feed our frogs. The animal in the photograph is not obviously gravid, and could just be a chunky male or female. In the wild these frogs are much thinner, and if you see a courting couple, its easier to tell by shape with an obviously gravid female. Any pumilio with a "belly" (which most consider healthy) basically tend towards too much weight on it to really go by body shape.
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