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Old 07-29-2011, 02:23 AM
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Default Vampire crabs? Me needz more info.

I showed my wife some Vampire crab pics and she really wants me to do a viv for them in the kids playroom.
I was thinking something along the lines of a 40 breeder, 55 or 75gal.
Maybe a small water feature.

She also would like a Mint terriblis viv...all mixing debates aside I assume the two wouldn't be do able together? Not sure how small the crabs are but I guess Mints would probably eat them or at least try.

Any how, i was thinking a water feature on one side with a rockwall around the pond area and giving way to a clay background.

I was reading in Zacks thread that they like to burrow.

What kind of substrait should I use? Standard or something clay based?

I know they are kept similar to darts, what about lighting, do they need UVB for molting or anything?

Misting do anything for them other than keeping up the humidity?

Anything else about them I should know? Any input you guys have would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 07-29-2011, 02:39 AM
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I showed my wife some Vampire crab pics and she really wants me to do a viv for them in the kids playroom.
I was thinking something along the lines of a 40 breeder, 55 or 75gal.
Maybe a small water feature.

She also would like a Mint terriblis viv...all mixing debates aside I assume the two wouldn't be do able together? Not sure how small the crabs are but I guess Mints would probably eat them or at least try.

Any how, i was thinking a water feature on one side with a rockwall around the pond area and giving way to a clay background.

I was reading in Zacks thread that they like to burrow.

What kind of substrait should I use? Standard or something clay based?

I know they are kept similar to darts, what about lighting, do they need UVB for molting or anything?

Misting do anything for them other than keeping up the humidity?

Anything else about them I should know? Any input you guys have would be greatly appreciated.
The only advice I can give is to buy Cb if at all possible. The WCs are a nightmare to acclimate.
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Old 07-29-2011, 02:44 AM
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Thanks, I only buy CB animals and would have to a super rare desired species for me to even concider WC....still need to set up some Williamsi vivs as well while on the subject (sorry brain works funny)
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Not sure how small the crabs are but I guess Mints would probably eat them or at least try.
Really? I would worry from the opposite side...the crabs trying to eat the frogs! Even if they're smaller...the could cause some damage!

Note: I do NOT have any experience with them...so hopefully someone will chime in.
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Old 07-29-2011, 03:17 AM
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thanks, was mearly just vocalizing a passing thought. In either case i don't think they would be happy together.

Honestly if I where to think mixing and a tank using crabs probably Ameerega...or crabs and williamsi...ahh hell nothing really works together too well.

Anyhow, back to their care.
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thanks, was mearly just vocalizing a passing thought. In either case i don't think they would be happy together.

Honestly if I where to think mixing and a tank using crabs probably Ameerega...or crabs and williamsi...ahh hell nothing really works together too well.

Anyhow, back to their care.
actually someone posted about keeping VCs with an arboreal tarantula, in one of the earlier threads on the topic
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Hey Mike,

Hit me up on facebook sometime, and we can chat about them. They really are not very hard to work with, as long as you start out with healthy, captive bred animals.
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I got really interested by these guys recently and scoured the internets for more info about them. And I found out there really isn't that much about them....

This site has some information on 4 of the commonly kept species:
PANZERWELTEN-FORUM - Species databases
It seems that there are quite a few species out there, and that they do get confused sometimes.

Personally I don't think it would be safe to keep them with darts:
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Those little guys are absolutely fascinating! And boy, can they jump fast! I wouldn't mind having a tank of them one day. We used to catch little crawdaddies in my grandma's creek when I was growing up...maybe that's why I've got a weird thing for crabs. Too bad the creek's gone now...or I may be down there trying again!
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I got really interested by these guys recently and scoured the internets for more info about them. And I found out there really isn't that much about them....

This site has some information on 4 of the commonly kept species:
PANZERWELTEN-FORUM - Species databases
It seems that there are quite a few species out there, and that they do get confused sometimes.

Personally I don't think it would be safe to keep them with darts:
‪Vampire crab hunting.wmv‬‏ - YouTube
Thanks for the links, they sure do move fast when they want to!
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Ah, I was looking for this link that I found too:
Geosesarma sp. newer varieties
(such a pain to dig these up lol) (also, some of the links take you to the german site. So little info...)

Actually, I'll post the pictures here, one for each "species":







If you're looking for a multispecies enclosure, maybe there's some freshwater shrimp that might work well with one of those species? There are some rather cool looking freshwater shrimp also
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I like the purple and red ones. Bicolor or what ever they are called.
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Here are some resources:

vampire/carnival/celebes jungle crabs

vampire crabs being collected/habitat photos:
NEWS - Location of Geosesarma - Garfishindo Tropical

main importer of vampire (carnival) crabs, shows habitat pics:
A R I S T O C R A T A M A . C O M

one of the better caresheets:
GEOSESARMA SP. "Vampire" - Species database

info, great pics of sexes, size of offspring (in german):
Artbeschreibungen der AG Wirbellose Tiere der Binnengewässer
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I like the purple and red ones. Bicolor or what ever they are called.
I believe it's the purple/yellow referred to as "bicolor". The purple/red (Orange) are usually just "vampire".

I bought 3 wc animals one of which died in about a day, and another later about 8 weeks. The third is still doing well, actively hunts ff's. Sometimes it eats shrimp pellets, but not very often. Mine is in an exo, lightly planted. I keep the medium pretty wet, and yes, they do burrow. Temps are the same as darts, and it is lit by a single cfl. Hope this is some help.

EDIT: Also, I think I saw an ad in the classified section of this forum for cb. Vampires and Mandarins.

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I like the purple and red ones. Bicolor or what ever they are called.
I know giantgeckos.com has the purple/red ones:
GiantGeckos.com - Captive Bred Reptiles by Philippe de Vosjoli - AVAILABLE
They also have some basic care info:
GiantGeckos.com - Captive Bred Reptiles by Philippe de Vosjoli - BASIC CARE
It seems that they do need iodine to molt

I think a member on the forum was selling some Geosesarma species on the marketplace forum recently, do a search.
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I had 7 WC adult Bicolor, they didn't last very long. I also got 7 CB baby red devils and have only lost 2 of them. I keep them in a 10 gallon(upgrading soon) and I use sphagnum and jungle mix as substrate. I keep the substrate basically soaked.

I also have a pool of water for them, usually only a couple of inches deep. I add a pinch of salt to the water feature nearly every time I fill it back up. I was told that this helps them molt. They are fed dusted FF and Bean Beetles. I gave them a wax worm the other day and have yet to find it or pieces of it, so i;m hoping they tore it apart and ate it. I have also given them fish flakes and their tank is full of springtails. I have observed them eating the springtails.

I recommend getting CB crabs. They really are fascinating!
As for mixing with frogs, I wouldn't recommend it. I have often thought about it but really the crabs need to be kept wetter than the frogs and I think that one would end up stressing the other out. Whether it be the frogs stressing crabs or vice versa.
The crabs, although small, seem to like to fight with each other, usually it's brief and nobody gets hurt.

Hope this helps you out some. I know it's one thing to read a care sheet about them, but, if you are like me, I always prefer to hear from someone who has even a little experience with the animal in question.

Good Luck with whatever you decide.
Here is a link to a video of my little red devils catching FF's

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sorta bringing the thread back but.. i've been looking for some CB vampire crabs...

anyone know where i can get some?

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sorta bringing the thread back but.. i've been looking for some CB vampire crabs...

anyone know where i can get some?
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Been doing some more searching for info about these guys and I found two more species that are being imported to Europe:

"yellow eye"


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