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Old 03-21-2010, 12:57 PM
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Hey all i was thinking about maybe getting 1 or 2 waxy monkey frogs. I just wanted to ask if anyone had them, if they could maybe post a picture or two of their enclosure. Do they need any specific lighting or anything?
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:24 PM
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It needs to be a larger size enclosure with plenty of branches for them to climb on. It can have a screen top and they will require an incandescent bulb with temperatures up to the mid-90s during the day. They come from the Chacoan region in South America, so they enjoy the heat. There are enclosures up on youtube, search "Berkshire Museum Monkey Frogs" for an example (although it's big).
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Okay than you, ill take a look at it. What would you say the minimum cage size should be?
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20 ish should be fine. As long as there's a pearch for them to bask under a heat lamp they'll be good. They usally poo in the water bowl.
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20 or larger is fine for one or two adults. The humidity only has to be 60%-ish too.
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Just keep them as arid as possible, imagine a lizard like set up. They key to that would be always providing them with clean water, every night. I noticed if given clean water, mine would soak every night and like mentioned above, they excrete their dry urine/feces in the water bowl and rehydrate, then they hunt. I always kept groups in a little larger tanks. They don't move around a lot during the day but at night they usually explore about every inch of their cage.

I use a lot of sanseverias for them to climb on, it supports their weight and also can tolerate the dry temperatures. No reason to mist on them unless you are wanting to breed them. These frogs need to be cycled before breeding as well.

Good luck, they are my favorite tree frogs and the first ones I bred when I was much younger. Hard to resist their dopey looking face, hahah.
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Haha yeah they are cute. So you guys say a 20 would be okay, i have a 20 long, would that be okay?
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Phyllomedusa sauvagei is a tree frog and will want more climbing area. A 29 will be good for a few of them. I used to keep them in verts
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Phyllomedusa sauvagei is a tree frog and will want more climbing area. A 29 will be good for a few of them. I used to keep them in verts
I agree they will do much better in a taller tank. Make sure you get captive bred, as the are much hardier than the wild imports. I have a few left that are about 6 months old now, pictures can be seen at Alpha Pro Breeders
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Okay cool, ill take a look. What watt bulb should i get for them?
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50-60 watts should be enough for them.
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Alright sweet. And do they need any other lighting? UVA or UVB or anything?
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I've been told that full spectrum UVB should be used on them during the day, but I know that some people choose to forgo the UVB altogether and just use heat lamps. Derek, do you have anything you can recommend as far as additional lighting goes?
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Okay, well for right now i might just use a regular heat lamp. So you guys dont think a 10g or 20g horizontal would be okay for 1 frog?
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A 20 gallon normal will be fine for one frog, I would shy away from the long style tanks for them, even verted they are just a weird size.

As far as lighting goes, I would just do a heat lamp, if you have plants in there, put a fluorescent on them as well. I was using powersuns over my bigger cages because they were clearancing them out at work, I also had a dual bulb shoplight over them to keep my sanseverias, jade, etc. alive and doing well.

There are a lot of imports available right now, and like mentioned above, I would jsut look past them. I have kept a lot of waxys over the years and most of the imports are a pain. I have had them come in with just about everything. Ranging from bacterial/fungal issues to missing toes, bones poking through the skin, burns on the feet, eye issues, etc. Unless of course you can pick them out in front of you at an expo and they look immaculate. Just my two cents. Hell, at the texas show where I met ashton, they had imports for $85-$100 a piece and novy had his sub adults born last july for $80.... wish I had the cash.
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Oh okay cool, wgeb you say a 20g normal is that a 20 tall? Is anyone here breeding any right now? Where i could get one soon for cheap?
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I know Mike Novy from Rainforest Junkys has quality CB waxys, some that we saw at the show. They were in great shape, along with his other frogs. Alpha Pro Breeders has some CB available too, as mentioned earlier in the thread.
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Alright thank, oh yeah brain fart lol i just looked at Alpha Pro Breeders page like 30 minutes ago and saw them ha. Is Mike Novy on dendroboard where i could talk to him?
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Yes, it would probably be easiest to reach him through email though. His email is listed on his website (rainforestjunkys.com) if you are interested.
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