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Old 07-26-2009, 10:18 PM
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Default A.spurrelli, A.annae, Cruziohyla calcarifer: Breeders?

First of all I want to apologise for my bad English.

I'm from Belgium (Europe) and I don't know anything about how things are going in the US...

Are there a lot of breeders of Agalychnis spurrelli, annae, and Cruziohyla calcarifer? Does anyone of you have one of these species?

I would love to have calcarifer, (or even craspedopus) but I don't know yet if it's possible to export them to Europe...

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Hi Raf,

There are definitely people here in the US working with these species and starting to have fairly good results, but I'm not sure of the legality of their import to the US and therefore the likelihood of their export from the US.

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Okey thank you! So the CB there, they aren't legal if the parent animals aren't legally imported?

And are all these animals imported illegal? Or are there also a lot of legal animals?

I think Agalychnis annae is the least rare frog of these three species?

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Okey thank you! So the CB there, they aren't legal if the parent animals aren't legally imported?

And are all these animals imported illegal? Or are there also a lot of legal animals?

I think Agalychnis annae is the least rare frog of these three species?

Greetings,
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Raf,

I don't think there is anybody working with A. spurrelli in the US. (at least not in the hobby)
Spurrelli is listed as Least Concern by IUCN red list.

A. annae is being breed on a small level as far as I know but they still don't pop up often. Annae is also still being imported on a small level from a import seller I know. Annae is listed as Endangered by IUCN red list.

Cruziohyla calcarifer is being breed by a small number people as well. These guys were impoted several years ago and sold for a really high price. They are listed as Least Concern but to my understanding Cruziohyla calcarifer & craspedopus don't get imported due to lack of finding them by importers. They live really high up in the canopy and only breed in tree holes or stumps making them hard to find.

I don't think C. craspedopus is being bred in the US outside of zoos and other institutes.

Craspedopus & spurrelli may very well be in the hobby too. Who knows?
Most breeders that have the rarer Agalychnis are pretty guarded about telling anyone about them.

I think their legal status has more to due with each species and if the country they come from made a clause about the release to private collections. (i.e. Atelopus zeteki/Panama)

The easiest rarer Agalychnis you will find in the US is moreletii. A small amount of people are captive breeding them and importations came in this year in spite of the fact that they are critically endangered.

I hope this helps.
Send me some Westvleteren trappist Ale from Belgium and I'll send you some annae.

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Thanks Gothaicus.

I've found a german website. They posted a message: they have spurrelli, annae, saltator and C.calcarifer...

Someone in the Netherlands told me he often saw calcarifer in Europe... But I don't think that's possible...

And about the Ale: I'll send you 5x 24 bottles and you send me 5 Annae?

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Raf,

You are welcome.

I'd love to have the link for this German website you speak of. (to dream )

Somebody might have seen calcarifer at the Manchester Museum.

We will have to work on the ale/annae trade.
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