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Old 11-07-2015, 03:40 AM
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Trying to help a friend ID this frog. he said its about .5" and is unsure of the age. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Old 11-07-2015, 07:40 AM
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Reticulated Auratus possibly?
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Old 11-07-2015, 04:07 PM
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Based on pattern he looks Dendrobates auratus reticulated, like Mppp said, but the size you indicate is too small for auratus. Unless he is a froglet.
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Old 11-07-2015, 04:12 PM
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I think we've got it figured out. It's a juvi reticulated auratus. Thanks for the help all!
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Old 11-08-2015, 03:17 AM
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I would have guessed vicentei.
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Old 11-08-2015, 05:20 AM
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I agree with Jason, that is most certainly an Oophaga vincentei. Still on the rarer and pricier side
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Old 11-08-2015, 03:34 PM
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Not familiar with Vicentei, but based on the shape of the body, the pattern and the size, I think you've got it right. Oophaga vicentei, for me too.
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Old 11-08-2015, 04:07 PM
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I would assume if you had a vicentei you'd know you had a vicentei. I'd lean towards a young reticulated auratus as well.

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Old 11-08-2015, 04:37 PM
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Ya, I totally missed the identifying for a friend part. I was only looking at the pic. If it is a reticulated auratus, it's got some unusual coloring with those blue feet, deep green dorsum. I've never seen one that wasn't the typical Taboga gold-green/ avacado.
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Old 11-08-2015, 04:38 PM
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Since the question remains, why not ask your friend how he had this frog/froglet? Maybe if we go back to the seller, he can say whether young reticulated or vicentei.
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Old 11-08-2015, 04:48 PM
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Like Pat mentioned above,vicentei are higher end frogs, so it's pretty dubious that someone could buy one without knowing it. I guess there is a chance it somehow came in with a fish import, or something.
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Old 11-08-2015, 06:22 PM
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Yeah the reason I'm leaning towards auratus is because they got it from a local pet shop. I'd be very surprised if they had o. Vincenti but I guess you never know. I'm going to go take a look at it in person this week and see if that helps.
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its possible. Strictley reptiles supplies alot of pet stores. Its possible it got mixed in with some pumilio or auratus.

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It looks like O. vincenti to me. The body shape seems wrong for auratus even though the patterning is really similar to the reticulated. pdfCrazy is right, SR supplies a ton of stores and a mix up might have happened.
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Old 11-09-2015, 04:03 AM
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Anyone have a good pic of O. Vincenti they can post?
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Not green but will still give you an idea...



How large is the frog in question?
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I found this. It is in Italian, but there are a lot of pics.

Oophaga vicenteii | TERRARIA
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This is my frog that I had the op ask about. I got it from a local pet store and so far no one knows what it is for sure.
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its possible. Strictley reptiles supplies alot of pet stores. Its possible it got mixed in with some pumilio or auratus.

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Or it could be a hybrid as a certain known source of hybrids wholesales to the pet trade.

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Don't think so, Ed. That frog doesn't have big enough "guns" to be TopGun™.
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Ruling out vicentei should be fairly easy. I'm doubtful that any auratus (except maybe days/week out of water metamorphs) are as small as adult vicentei, so if this frog is average pumilio size or larger, it isn't vicentei.
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Ruling out vicentei should be fairly easy. I'm doubtful that any auratus (except maybe days/week out of water metamorphs) are as small as adult vicentei, so if this frog is average pumilio size or larger, it isn't vicentei.
Part of the problem is that the picture doesn't expand well and it is lacking the side profile to help determine the shape of the frog (at least to me). Squinting at a small picture can make it simpler to make a misidentification (at least for me).

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Part of the problem is that the picture doesn't expand well and it is lacking the side profile to help determine the shape of the frog (at least to me). Squinting at a small picture can make it simpler to make a misidentification (at least for me).

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Assuming that it is climbing on a styrofoam background (eg. exo terra), I'd say O. vicentei based on pattern and size.
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Should most certainly be treated as though it were a hybrid since the origin is unknown.

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