What kind of snake is this? copperhead? - Dendroboard
Dendroboard

Go Back   Dendroboard > Miscellaneous > Identification Forum
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read Advertise

Support Our Sponsors
No Threads to Display.

facebook

Like Tree7Likes
  • 1 Post By froggorf
  • 1 Post By froggorf
  • 1 Post By Mantella71
  • 4 Post By Ed

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 05-18-2015, 07:10 PM
pinkpony's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: CT
Posts: 205
Thanks: 116
Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts
Default What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

My father was messing with his bobcat and attached the milling machine on it. Which is stored along the brush near a streem. He started the Miller and it fell out at my feet a few feet away. It struck at me a few times then took off. I took a few pics of it in the brush but couldn't see the tail. I don't know how it didn't get killed from the machine.

It has a very triangular head. Very dark in color but it was also in deep shed so im sure it's throwing the colors off. So I know it's not a northern water snake. My best guess is copperhead or timber rattle snake?
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 05-18-2015, 07:14 PM
pinkpony's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: CT
Posts: 205
Thanks: 116
Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts
Default Re: What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

Oops forgot the pic
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 20150518_094605.jpg (92.2 KB, 157 views)
File Type: jpg 20150518_094611_9.jpg (98.9 KB, 135 views)
__________________
0.0.3 Super Blue Auratus
2.1.2 Chazuta Imitators
0.0.3 Bakhuis Tincs
I ♡ my GSD #steelk9
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 05-18-2015, 07:14 PM
froggorf's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 330
Thanks: 5
Thanked 33 Times in 29 Posts
Default Re: What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

If you posted pics that would be helpful but check this out, perhaps you can ID it.

http://www.ct.gov/deep/lib/deep/wild...snkwebview.pdf
Enlightened Rogue likes this.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to froggorf For This Useful Post:
Enlightened Rogue (05-21-2015), Judy S (05-19-2015)
 
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 05-18-2015, 07:16 PM
froggorf's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 330
Thanks: 5
Thanked 33 Times in 29 Posts
Default Re: What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

Aha, there are the pics! It sure looks like a rattler to me but hard to tell, good thing it didn't tag you!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 05-18-2015, 07:17 PM
pinkpony's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: CT
Posts: 205
Thanks: 116
Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts
Default Re: What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

Here's another pic.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 20150518_094754_20.jpg (96.9 KB, 148 views)
__________________
0.0.3 Super Blue Auratus
2.1.2 Chazuta Imitators
0.0.3 Bakhuis Tincs
I ♡ my GSD #steelk9
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 05-18-2015, 07:18 PM
mongo77's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 1,017
Thanks: 28
Thanked 58 Times in 57 Posts
Default Re: What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

Look like a water moccasin ( cotton mouth).
__________________
Thanks, LARRY

" Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!" Ben Franklin
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 05-18-2015, 07:31 PM
pinkpony's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: CT
Posts: 205
Thanks: 116
Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts
Default

I looked at pics of those too but.. we don't have them around here? There is the odd chance someone had it as a pet but what are the odds of someone stumbling on one set free in the wild in ct?
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 05-18-2015, 07:36 PM
froggorf's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 330
Thanks: 5
Thanked 33 Times in 29 Posts
Default Re: What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkpony View Post
I looked at pics of those too but.. we don't have them around here? There is the odd chance someone had it as a pet but what are the odds of someone stumbling on one set free in the wild in ct?
Very very unlikely, to me it looks like a dark timber rattlesnake about to shed (based on the eye coloration), also would explain why it was striking a lot as they can't see as well before shedding. My 2 cents and I'm sticking with it
Weston likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 05-18-2015, 07:38 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Pasadena, MD
Posts: 219
Thanks: 2
Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts
Default Re: What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

Pattern looks like a northern water snake. Not venomous but nasty
ZookeeperDoug likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 05-18-2015, 07:45 PM
pinkpony's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: CT
Posts: 205
Thanks: 116
Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts
Default

The pattern does look like a water snake but it's head is very triangular. All the water snake pics I've seen, their heads look more pointy like. Similar to a corn snakes head shape. This was more viper shaped. That's why I'm so puzzled. This snake that I saw had a viper shaped head. But I would assume if it was a rattle snake it would of been rattling right? We even moved the bush away with a broom and I didn't hear anything.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 05-18-2015, 07:54 PM
Ed Ed is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 19,301
Thanks: 321
Thanked 2,730 Times in 1,792 Posts
Default Re: What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

Northern water snake. Its an older specimen, northern watersnakes darken as they age and the banding can become obscured but if you look closely at the sides of the snake, the bands are there.
You can't use the head shape of a disturbed snake as part of the identification as a wide number of non-venomous species flatten out their heads as part of a threat display. The flattening of the heads leads a lot of people to incorrectly identify the snake as being venomous when they aren't. I've also seen a few specimens shake their tail in an attempt to mimic a rattler but if your aware of what a rattler actually looks and sounds like it is a very poor imitation.

Some comments

Ed
__________________
A phrase you never want to hear;
"It seemed like a good idea at the time."
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Ed For This Useful Post:
Judy S (05-19-2015), Sherman (05-18-2015)
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 05-18-2015, 09:17 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Pasadena, MD
Posts: 219
Thanks: 2
Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts
Default Re: What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

Right on Ed. People call me all the time and get them confused. Water snakes are misidentified all the time.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 05-18-2015, 10:03 PM
pinkpony's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: CT
Posts: 205
Thanks: 116
Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts
Default

I didn't know they flatten their heads!! Ty for that information. We were all worried because of our kids and pets.

Thank you all who replied
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 05-19-2015, 12:26 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 802
Thanks: 9
Thanked 27 Times in 24 Posts
Default Re: What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

Thats what I was thinking. Water snake but the head shape had me guessing. They can be feisty snakes and like to bit. Had a whole bunch where I used to live until the local redtail discovered they taste good. Wiped them out.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 05-19-2015, 12:46 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Union Bridge, MD
Posts: 3,076
Thanks: 412
Thanked 127 Times in 121 Posts
Default Re: What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

Quote:
Originally Posted by froggorf View Post
If you posted pics that would be helpful but check this out, perhaps you can ID it.

http://www.ct.gov/deep/lib/deep/wild...snkwebview.pdf
wonder if other states put out such a good pamphlet....that was really interesting...thanks
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 05-19-2015, 02:15 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 25
Thanks: 4
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

Woah scary looking little buggar there
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 05-19-2015, 06:39 PM
Julio's Avatar
TWI/ASN
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NYC
Posts: 10,087
Blog Entries: 2
Thanks: 7
Thanked 212 Times in 149 Posts
Default Re: What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkpony View Post
I looked at pics of those too but.. we don't have them around here? There is the odd chance someone had it as a pet but what are the odds of someone stumbling on one set free in the wild in ct?
There are timber rattlers in the North East
__________________
Have a nice day

http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/ven...340-julio.html
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 05-19-2015, 06:44 PM
froggorf's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 330
Thanks: 5
Thanked 33 Times in 29 Posts
Default Re: What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

Julio that was in response to water mocassins in CT.
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 05-19-2015, 06:49 PM
Julio's Avatar
TWI/ASN
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NYC
Posts: 10,087
Blog Entries: 2
Thanks: 7
Thanked 212 Times in 149 Posts
Default Re: What kind of snake is this? copperhead?

ah missed that.
__________________
Have a nice day

http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/ven...340-julio.html
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
World's Most Colorful Snake? - The 100 Flower Snake (Moellendorff's Ratsnake) findi The Lounge 1 04-25-2014 05:32 PM
Copperhead Fant Lineage oldlady25715 Ranitomeya 3 08-27-2013 12:28 PM
Coral snake eating a young copperhead fieldnstream The Lounge 5 07-09-2012 03:08 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT. The time now is 04:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.