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Old 01-07-2008, 02:46 PM
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Hi all,
Just wondering if these are any more bold in a group of 5.
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I have a group of 5 and never see them at all. Sometimes i get in there and move some leaves just to make sure there are frogs in the tank at all.
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Old 01-07-2008, 05:22 PM
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I have a quartet of Red Amazonicus (basically the same thing) and they are pretty skittish. I do see them every day, but if I make sudden movements they bolt. I have seen older groups that were very bold though. I mean you could walk right up to the tank and they wouldn't budge. I was told that it really depends on tank set up and individual animals.

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Quick answer = on the shy side

Long answer = it depends upon the group dynamics and tank design. Also they are active for me in the am's just b/f turning on the lights and also after feeding/misting. If I dont look during those times I might never see them. I've had amazonicus in the past that were very bold for 6+ months, then I added them to a larger tank and poof, never saw them again.

I have experience with Borja Ridge vents and French Guyana vents as well and I will say that my Blackwater red vents are fairly shy by comparison.

Others may have different experiences but if you are looking for a bold thumb, then red vents may not be your best option.

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It really depnds on the ratio of males to females and the individual frog's personalities. I had a 1.2 trio and they were really shy. Then one of the females became gravid and was so bold, she wouldn't hide. Well my male wouldn't call and the other female was still shy. Then sadly the gravid female died unexpectedly. A week later, the male started calling. With 1.1 even M:F ratio, they are much, much bolder. Now the male and female are always out. They are still scared and will still hop away if they see me within 2 feet of their tank, but other than that they are always out in the open, usually right next to each other. I'm not saying this will happen with everyone, I'm sure many people will have much shyer frogs, but I think with a male heavy or equall ratio these frogs can be great.
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So far with my trio i wouldnt say are shy but are not very bold either. Than again i just added them to my tank 2 days ago, but since they are already calling and they are quite active and more out right now. I have never had any other frogs so i am not entirely sure how bold they can be :P.
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As already stated it depends. Mine can be bold to skittish depending on the day.
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As already stated it depends. Mine can be bold to skittish depending on the day
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Interestly, mine are bold in the morning and afternoon, but not so much at night. They are extremely bold when they are laying eggs in the film canister though. they will just hang out for a long time and then hang on the glass next to the canister even if I open up the lid.
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Thanks for the replies, helps makes up my mind on my first thumbs. I love the color and pattern on these, but I like a bold frogs and think I might go with either Tarapoto imi's or Intermedius.
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I did a poll once, and aside from Pumilio, Imi's were by far the top rated must have thumb. This poll was asking if you could only have 4 kids of darts, what would you have. So I think that is pretty telling. I have never heard someone unhappy with an imi. The trade off is the color maybe, but that is all how you look at it.

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I have found amis and imi on the far ends of the boldness scale. I don't work with amis any more because I never, ever saw mine.

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Mine are also more visible in the morning.
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