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Old 05-27-2020, 10:37 PM
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Default Fruit Fly media.

what's everyone using for fruit fly media? Repashy?
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Old 05-28-2020, 01:38 AM
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My personal preference is Rephasy SuperFly. I know some prefer to make their own and you will find plenty of recipes on here, that search bar is your best friend. If you can't find results that way, I just use google search. Type in what you are looking for and then add the word dendroboard and you will find more results. I always try both methods to research until I hit a brick wall.

Seriously grab a few beers, or beverage of choice and read through all the posts, there is so much valuable information on this board, that you will be surprised that 3 hours have passed and you are STILL reading
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Been reading all the stickys. Gonna start searching now. Thanks.
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Old 05-28-2020, 06:35 AM
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Fruit fly media is whatever you make it to be. They all work, mostly.

This is what I do. Go to the dollar store. Buy a jar/can of apple sauce. Buy a carton of potato flakes. Buy ground cinnamon (optional). Buy yeast (optional).

Pour about a 1/2" of apple sauce into a 32oz deli cup. Add potato flakes into the cup and stir. You want to add enough flakes to absorb the sauce as to not make it runny. If you don't put enough flakes it'll get runny after a week or two, but, once you start mixing the stuff you'll know.

The cinnamon is to prevent mold and people say yeast is to feed the breeder flies so I use it because I have it around. It's not necessary though. I've done it without and it's the same results. These canned foods already have a bunch of mold inhibitors in them. There's even an apple cinnamon apple sauce too so it is what it is. For cinnamon, stir it into the mix and the yeast, sprinkle a little on top at the end.

Real easy and cheap and I get crazy results.
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Old 05-28-2020, 06:55 AM
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My recipe is the following:

(1 part is around 300ml)

7 parts oatmeal
2 parts brewer's yeast
1 part sugar
2 tablespoons cinnamon powder

I also add 2 tablespoons of my own carotenoid mix, but I guess regular superpig would work just as well. This isn't necessary for the flies, but there is some scientific evidence that suggests that adding some carotenoids to the mix has benefits for the frogs.

For a culture I use 60-70 ml of this mix with 100 ml of boiling water for melanogaster and 80 ml mix with 120 ml water for hydei. Works really well for me so far.
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Old 05-28-2020, 11:47 AM
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...there is some scientific evidence that suggests that adding some carotenoids to the mix has benefits for the frogs.
I haven't heard this yet. I am trying to work out my own recipe as I prepare for frogs. Do you have a link to the study by any chance? My searches for making more nutritious fruit flies have all turned up empty. I found a study talking about standardizing fruit fly diets and another about the importance of yeast for fruit flies and that is about it.
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Default Re: Fruit Fly media.

My advice for someone who's new to dart frogs: use a premade/commercial fruit fly media. It takes one more variable away from frog keeping.
I use Repashy superfly, it's the easiest to get where I live.
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Old 05-28-2020, 03:34 PM
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I recently switched to Rapashy, after buying a bunch of a Common Contender. The other stuff would develop a white mold so frequently that it became a real time burner. I tried everything, thoroughly mixing up the dry media before making, - approaching its making with gloves, everything boiled, I even rinsed and heat coddled the excelsior, switched to coffee filters, still it would appear and it compelled me to freeze cultures. This was not why I bought commercial media.

I started to think it must be the house.

Then I got Rapashy and not only did it seem faster to make for some reason, it mixes smoother, has more good things in it and No Mold at All.
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I have actually switched to Rapashy Everything, including some fun additions for my lizards diet that have gone over big.

I include my nose and sense of taste for many things. Reptile supplements often have, exp date non withstanding, an acrid, oxidized smell, even when newly opened.

Rapashy does not. The food based nutrient components of the products are well founded and fresh. The ingredients he puts in are like this really Pleasant Surprise.

Im suspicious of marketing and hard to please. But Im relaxed using Rapashy.
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I recently switched to Rapashy, after buying a bunch of a Common Contender. The other stuff would develop a white mold so frequently that it became a real time burner. I tried everything, thoroughly mixing up the dry media before making, - approaching its making with gloves, everything boiled, I even rinsed and heat coddled the excelsior, switched to coffee filters, still it would appear and it compelled me to freeze cultures. This was not why I bought commercial media.

I started to think it must be the house.

Then I got Rapashy and not only did it seem faster to make for some reason, it mixes smoother, has more good things in it and No Mold at All.
I have a theory about PART of why Repashy Superfly is consistently great:

The instructions on the bag call for a much lower solid:water ratio than competitors. I'm using another brand right now, and I dilute it almost double what the bag instructs. Media mixed too dry always molds over for me. And quickly.

Just seems like
One brand in particular
Seems to give bad advice lately.
However successful they've been in the past.
'Sphagnum layer over ABG' being one example of bad advice.
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I haven't heard this yet. I am trying to work out my own recipe as I prepare for frogs. Do you have a link to the study by any chance? My searches for making more nutritious fruit flies have all turned up empty. I found a study talking about standardizing fruit fly diets and another about the importance of yeast for fruit flies and that is about it.
Reading posts by Ed that include the word 'carotenoids' might be fruitful.

https://www.dendroboard.com/forum/se...rchid=15167944
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Reading posts by Ed that include the word 'carotenoids' might be fruitful.

https://www.dendroboard.com/forum/se...rchid=15167944
Found it! PDF link.

Its about strawberry frogs and speculates it's mostly useful for egg feeders, but of course, how can we know right?

The article does however contain this gem:

TABLE 1. Composition of fruit fly growth media
1. Dehydrated potatoes 16.7 g
2. Brewer’s yeast 3.7g
3. Confectioner’s sugar 4.9g
4. Methylparaben (preservative) 2.7g
5. Baker’s yeast 0.3g
6. Tap water 80g
7. Spirulina 1.4 g
8. Marine algae (powdered) 0.7g
9. Red phaffia yeast (powdered) 0.7 g
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Found it! PDF link.

Its about strawberry frogs and speculates it's mostly useful for egg feeders, but of course, how can we know right?

The article does however contain this gem:

TABLE 1. Composition of fruit fly growth media
1. Dehydrated potatoes 16.7 g
2. Brewer’s yeast 3.7g
3. Confectioner’s sugar 4.9g
4. Methylparaben (preservative) 2.7g
5. Baker’s yeast 0.3g
6. Tap water 80g
7. Spirulina 1.4 g
8. Marine algae (powdered) 0.7g
9. Red phaffia yeast (powdered) 0.7 g
Carotenoids also extend fruit fly life expectancy, so that's another reason to include some into your fly mix
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