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All charcoal cultures last longer, but produce less, and is more of a pain to harvest the springtails.
Harder to harvest? Just add water and pour out the water from the cultures. Couldn't be easier.
Yeah, I'm hip to that method, but I don't like to add a lot of extra water when I feed...so instead I use a piece of coco mat or treefern panel to shake/knock over the enclosure, works well, cept for the mites those products seem to attract.
The cocofiber mat is kind of hit or miss, and even on a "hit" I end up with mites sooner or later...when it works though, it works great...literally snowing springtails!
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This method has always produced GREAT cultures...

Take a ratio of 1:1:1:3 Wood chips:leaves:LFS:Coco

Keep it fairly moist, but be sure to poke a few holes in the top--air flow really seems to be vital to sustain growth. I feed yeast... I tend to get the best results that way. Other foods lend themselves to mite infestations and those are never okay.
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I use a mixture of peat and pine crust, and fishfood to feed
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Yeah, I'm hip to that method, but I don't like to add a lot of extra water when I feed...so instead I use a piece of coco mat or treefern panel to shake/knock over the enclosure, works well, cept for the mites those products seem to attract.
The cocofiber mat is kind of hit or miss, and even on a "hit" I end up with mites sooner or later...when it works though, it works great...literally snowing springtails!
You can pour the water through a clump of sphagnum or similar and just place the now springtail loaded sphagnum in the viv instead of adding the water. I often just pour the water through a little strainer which lets a lot of springtails pass through but still quickly captures a couple thousand for a quick tap into a viv.
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I am just having trouble getting the springtails into the vivs
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try a moist leaf set on the cx surface with a fine dusting of dry yeast...in 2-3 days it will be covered in springs that you can simply tap into the tank and place the leaf back for round 2.

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instead of a leaf try 4 pieces of 3"X4" corrugated cardboard secured by rubberband, get it wet, sprinkle some spring food in the channels and on top, place on culture surface, wait 2-4 days = springtail "salt shaker" or use a straw to blow out the channels into a viv. I pitch the cardboard when it gets black mold or if mites/worms cover the cardboard, blow off the springs, pitch the pests!
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I feed them high quality fish food and rice.
Dry or cooked rice?
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I feed them high quality fish food and rice.
Dry or cooked rice?
Really,,, it doesnt matter, but I would use uncooked rice.. Usually I just use yeast.
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A method I have not tried myself but am going to, is to make a mix of plaster of paris and crushed charcoal for color. This way it is easy to tap the container and the springs go into the viv without all your soil or charcoal going into the viv.
I found this method online a while back when I did research on springtails.
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Hey i dont think this has been debated enough...wheres bbrock and frye when you need them. :lol:
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here is what I have done in the past for no mess feeding

place the cups level with the substrate add water to just cover the bottom.
and serve'em while there hot!
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Scott, what are you using for the black cups? also, how much water are we talking...1/8 of an inch? how long can they survive in the water? you just fill it up and they jump in? easy as that? thanks
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Those look like 2 oz Solo ramekins, am I right?
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film cups are in the pic, I have not tried Solo ramekins but they are black and may work? the water in the bottom is a bit more than a drop, to just cover the bottom. I wouldnt leave them for more than a few days.
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Kinda have to find this post funny after getting all my springtails back (and then some) at the recent MADS meeting... Recently Oz made a great post with some of his awesome pics and it gave a great break down on how he takes care of his springtails... and the basic part is that there are WAY more varieties in the hobby than a lot of people think!! And with all those varieties... you get a wide variety of preferences. So sure... you're gonna get lots of answers and some are going to be conflicting... I tried to keep all my springs the same way just to have some really suffer (and then when all my cultures dried out at least one type that was suffering had a boom... yeah that kind likes it drier evidently :roll: ).
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I don't know if this has been mentioned yet but for getting a concentration of springs in one place I have had the best luck with avacodo peels. Plus they are easy to pick up and put in another container without losing many springs.
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for those that have PMed me here is a link on feeding springs, I described what I used for that type of springs which I think I got from Eds
http://www.dendroboard.com/phpBB2/vi...hlight=#184060
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Like most, I use a mix variation of other peoples methods. I use the ziploc plastic containers, w/ blue lids, Its a mix of coco fiber, orchid bark, sphagnum, charcoal and peat. Mix really well, add some water than a teaspoon of an existing culture. I think that there should be a sticky to a springtail thread (I dont think I saw one?) if anybody has one that has really good pics of how they do their cultures... Would benefit a lot of members on the site...
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Hey Scott,
im trying your method. my substrate looks pretty much identical to yours...coco fiber..and ive used wisconsin sphagnum. its wicked cheap off ebay. i used some heavy duty scissors and cut it up as fine as i could and mixed it in. im not sure what the ratio is. but i tried to get its texture similar to yours.

How wet do you all keep it for tropicals. i understand they like it as wet as temperates...a bit more clarification there would be much appreciated.

also...how long does it usually take to get the initial boom? or does it vary from culture to culture? im sure its multi-variable..but im just curious. thanks!
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Hey Nate

you should not have water standing in the bottom. also Ive been adding broken up oak leaves in mine as well. Ive been feeding mushrooms, veg peels and yeast as of late. the trick to feeding is to feed smaller amounts more offten so you dont have a bloom then a crash. or feed alot to a culture that you intend to split or use as substrate in a new viv.
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I've never had population booms like I do when I feed mushrooms. It's springtail super food! A heavily populated culture will destroy a mushroom slice in near record time :shock:
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cool, yeah was going to ask how small you cut up the shrooms. right now ive got mushrooms halves small broccoli and yeast. a lot of them seem to be chilling out on the black underside of the muchrooms. as far as the leaf little, my order got held back but hes shipping it today with my leaf litter. there isnt any standing water., ive just been misting daily to keep it moist. that about right? thanks..
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I've never had population booms like I do when I feed mushrooms. It's springtail super food! A heavily populated culture will destroy a mushroom slice in near record time
Here is another person thinking outside of the box, and one with a really good idea. Springtails eat rotting fungus so it makes perfect sense that they would find these worthy. I'll have to try that one out.
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Definitely. Always makes it super easy to harvest springs out for feeding. Skewer the mushroom with a toothpick and leave it in the culture. Springs will begin devouring the mushroom, and you pick up the toothpick and shake the springs off the mushroom into viv. Can't say it's an idea of my own creation...picked it up somewhere here on DB.

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right now ive got mushrooms halves small broccoli and yeast
Be careful with feeding anything too rich- seems to bring on mites strong. Yeast and mushrooms do well for me, and that's what I feed exclusively.
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I came across this website tonight. It basically describes how temperate whites have been cultured for the last 50+ years! Apparently they were collected in U. Kansas greenhouse in prior to 1951. I propose, to clarify which springs people are talking about, we refer to these hereafter as Sinella curviseta. Yes, I am serious.


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That is pretty interesting AND simple. I'm surprised they do best when set up in small 4oz containers. That seems pretty small to me. Worth giving a try.
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Mark, so the springs in that pic are Sinella curviseta?
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Mine's pretty basic. I have a plastic storage box with about 3 inches of coco soil, pretty damp. I feed them with ready brek cereal, as it's fortified with vits and minerals. I have about half a dozen small peices of cork bark in the tub, and a couple in each of my thumbnail vivs. At feeding time i just swap the peices of cork bark over. I harvest every other day, and they've been going strong for over a year.
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would Leca clay balls work well for a medium for Springtail cultures to live in?
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Mine have absolutely exploded when i used dried mushrooms, crumbled into a powder, and mix it in with a charcoal substrate.
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I set up 2 jars of LECA just this week because I had that on hand and no charcoal and was curious. I've been using leaf litter/peat with some success and I used old coco panels that work as well. I've used potato flakes, mushrooms and am trying fish food right now. Looks like the fish food may be working well by the number of small sprintails I'm seeing. Will try to post in a couple of weeks about the LECA.
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Well of what I've tried this has worked the best for me especially when it comes time to feed the springs out or when I set up a grow out tank (so maybe I just set up my first one.. put it totally worked like a charm)

quarter of an inch layer of charcoal with a small amount of water topped with wet sphagnum.

When I lift up the sphagnum they are EVERYWHERE in the water and on the charcoal and to feed out I just pull out a clump of sphagnum and toss it in the tank. I'll occasionally sprinkle some food in the or even toss in some old veggies (usually mushrooms they LOVE mushrooms). When I set up my grow out I used wet sphagnum then just a little bit of the sphagnum from my culture and they are now every where in there, and let me tell you that is one happy little froglet!
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The calcined clay used for infield conditioner along with the crushed up wood charcoal works at least as well as LECA in my experience. once the charcoal is saturated, you can flood the containers and simply pour off the springtails into a large cup. The excess water can be removed and then springs then poured into the enclosure.

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I would love to hear some feedback on how well LECA vs Charcoal did, I have a lot more uses for the former then the later!
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I use coco chips and feed mushrooms, cultures are always booming. The best way i found to feed them off is to add a small peice of cardboard to the culture with the shroom on top. when i open the culture they run into the cardboard , tap it and it snows springs. I have about 40 16 oz cultures, after i feed them off i rotate my cultures let them start breeding again and by the time they come back around they are booming again. No need to split cultures or anything anymore.
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i use all cocofiber sometimes a soil mix if i have some jungle bed and spag left over or laying around. i keep one mag leaf in every culture thats what i use to sprinkle the yeast on twice a month and mist it to a paste they go nuts on it. and i only feed them twice a month so when the yeast is all gone they feed on the mushroom caps in the culture potato edges and cuecumber skins ect.. i also throw in left over fish flakes from what i dont use in fruit fly cultures and what not i sprinkle it on the leave not the soil. and my cultures are at a constant boom their never low or anything i have about 7 of them and one large master culture. i seed all my vivs every other week or so but i seed a large amount but it seems a few days later its sworming again. i believe there are many ways to culture them im going to try some other peoples methodes and see how well it works for me.
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I set up 2 jars of LECA just this week because I had that on hand and no charcoal and was curious. I've been using leaf litter/peat with some success and I used old coco panels that work as well. I've used potato flakes, mushrooms and am trying fish food right now. Looks like the fish food may be working well by the number of small sprintails I'm seeing. Will try to post in a couple of weeks about the LECA.
I never di re-post my findings on LECA but it didn't work very well and now I have swithced to Coco chips. I also used leaves on top on some with food inbetween so you could pick up the leaf and shke into your tank.
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I am just having trouble getting the springtails into the vivs
I tried a new method today that works great. I used just enough water so they would float. Then I used a turkey baster to suck up some springtails then just squirted the water in my vivs.
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Holy resurrected threads. I throw a piece of old fruit in my tanks under some leaf litter. I dont culture any outside of my tanks.
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