Originally Posted by oddlot
Hey Ron is there an easy way to visually sex Moraspungos?
Pretty standard anthonyi/tricolor sexing method: the females tend to take on more of a pear shape as they develop eggs.
I thought anthonyi and highlands were different too,or are santa isabellas from the same area?
is the species...terms like "Santa Isabel" or "Highland/Tierra Alta" simply refer to populations or frogs from certain locales. For instance, the former were collected just outside of the town of Santa Isabel, and the latter must have been collected at a higher elevation (although on one seems to have any info on this: the founders in the states were from frogs imported from Europe), so they just called them "highland" anthonyi. As a species, E. anthonyi
is found throughout southern Ecuador and, most likely, northern Peru.
is an entirely different species and is found more in the central part of Ecuador, and there is a ~200 km gap between its distribution and that of E. anthonyi
. Also, tricolor are not found below a certain elevation...so they tend to be more of an upland/high elevation frog. E. anthonyi
, however, are found both below and at the same higher elevations as tricolor, so they are a bit more adaptable to different climate and elevations.
I can't believe you didn't sell those at microcosm.I think they are great frogs,between their calls and looks.What conditions(triggers) are you using to get them to breed?
It was interesting: occasionally someone would come by and realize what they were and say, "What? You still have all of these? No one is buying them?" But, most people aren't into 'little brown frogs' and want the flashy, more colorful species.
I don't use any triggers for them. I tend to struggle with keeping things warm enough for frogs than I do keeping them cool enough, so maybe I just have conducive conditions for them. They are in a few tanks with some pools and water features, plenty of leaf litter and foliage...and that's it.
One thing that I think people don't think about with Epipedobates spp. is that, because they breed so much, females can 'burn out' with laying tons of eggs. I don't pull eggs and I don't usually pull tads--I let the frogs do the work. When there are a few clutches in the tank and the frogs have to work at guarding or delivering, there is less time for actively calling or trying to breed, so it helps slow breeding down a bit.
Also, regarding the ABG frogs: because many of these were 'free range' at the Garden, and there were tricolor and anthonyi from different locales...it's possible that frogs made it from one conservatory to another and there is potential that there was some mixing going on (although this is not confirmed). This doesn't decrease the value or worth of the frog (financially or intrinsically), but is why I say they shouldn't be mixed with any other form of tricolor in the states, just in case.
All in all a great frog, and mine call all throughout the day (and currently are, in fact, even though the lights went out almost an hour ago).