Tads drowning issue - Dendroboard
Dendroboard

Go Back   Dendroboard > Dart Frogs > Species > Epipedobates
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read Advertise


Support Our Sponsors
No Threads to Display.

facebook

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 06-25-2016, 02:39 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Edmonds WA
Posts: 16
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Tads drowning issue

My green 3 stripe peruvians have finally started cranking out big clutches of mostly viable eggs (I thought I was gonna have to show the male some froggy porn to get him educated on how this breeding thing works for awhile, took him a long time to catch on).

But once I got some tads going well for weeks, it all went south in a matter of days. I didnt even see any legs coming out. Then the next thing I know I find two tads, that were together, fully morphed out and dead, presumably from drowning. I did not even have a chance to move them from my normal tad cups to larger ones that are sitting at a 45 degree angle to make it easy for them to get out of the water. I talked to Patrick Nabors about this and he said he had experienced the same problem.

Just wondering if anyone here has been there and done that. Your care sheet on the species is spot on. The most obvious suggestion is to just put them in a small tub and slope it so that there's a lot of room and places to crawl out easier. Just looking for confirmation that I'm on the correct track with that advice? And also wondering if there should be nothing but water in the tub at that point? I normally have a few bits of leaves and some java moss floating around.

Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-16-2016, 05:47 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Edmonds WA
Posts: 16
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Tads drowning issue

Just posting an update. The last tad that got all four legs out I placed into a square plastic bin and tipped it sideways so there was a TON of real estate for it to crawl out. As it got closer to coming out, I reduced the water level to about half of normal and finally it came out of the water. Then we had to go on vacation.

Nice timing, not.

So I decided to move it to a last minute makeshift bin just for this one froglet. I didnt want to mix it in with other young froglet species -- by the time we got back it was dead.

But at least now I'm confident that I've solved the drowning problem and figured out how different the tad process is in this species from pretty much every other species I've worked with.

I've got about 8 other tads that are looking really robust, so maybe somewhere down the line here I can offer up some CB green 3 stripers that look like the male in this pairing.

Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 07-16-2016, 06:18 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Seattle, Washington
Posts: 223
Thanks: 5
Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts
Default Re: Tads drowning issue

Stunning frogs! Glad to hear you have solved the problem.
Where did you get these and what line are they?

Mark C.
Reply With Quote
 
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-16-2016, 07:48 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Edmonds WA
Posts: 16
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Tads drowning issue

I went back to an old excel file where I kept notes and it doesnt mention where they came from (duh), but I'm positive it was either Josh's or Black Jungle. So I've been waiting for about 2.5 years for this pair to get busy. This past winter I made a concerted effort to reduce food, water and light, then ramped all of it up in the spring and then they finally got busy.

The first clutches were large but the male was not doing his job. The female kept cranking out big clutches, then finally this last one, he got about half of the eggs fertilized. They appear to be done laying for now. So I gotta make sure these tads make it.

I'm also on the lookout for Red Trivs, now that I finally feel like I know more about this species.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-16-2016, 04:30 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Edmonds WA
Posts: 16
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Tads drowning issue

I went back to an old excel file where I kept notes and it doesnt mention where they came from (duh), but I'm positive it was either Josh's or Black Jungle. So I've been waiting for about 2.5 years for this pair to get busy. This past winter I made a concerted effort to reduce food, water and light, then ramped all of it up in the spring and then they finally got busy.

The first clutches were large but the male was not doing his job. The female kept cranking out big clutches, then finally this last one, he got about half of the eggs fertilized. They appear to be done laying for now. So I gotta make sure these tads make it.

I'm also on the lookout for Red Trivs, now that I finally feel like I know more about this species.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07-16-2016, 06:23 PM
Ed Ed is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 19,312
Thanks: 321
Thanked 2,733 Times in 1,795 Posts
Default Re: Tads drowning issue

What are you feeding the adults?

some comments

Ed
__________________
A phrase you never want to hear;
"It seemed like a good idea at the time."
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
green triv, tadpole care

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
drowning in aurantiaca tads!! marcfrogguy Mantella 17 03-26-2011 06:10 PM
A near drowning... jundox General Discussion 2 08-10-2007 03:27 PM
frogs drowning? Azsunspot161 Beginner Discussion 3 07-29-2007 02:31 AM
Help I might be drowning frogcrazy Breeding, Eggs & Tadpoles 2 02-18-2007 08:07 AM
Pumilio Tads Issue EDs Fly Meat General Discussion 7 12-09-2004 05:34 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT. The time now is 09:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.