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Old 08-12-2019, 10:07 PM
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My female, Titus, is a big frog. She’s about 2.

Her tank mate, which I think she wants to mate with is a year old.

What the chances these two are the giant form and dwarf form (respectively)?

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Old 08-12-2019, 11:26 PM
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yes, mating. That is one big female.

Careful. Even similar size males can do downhill and stress with prolonged attention. This is why some tinc keepers try for 2 males and 1 female ratios.

That may be a dwarf cobalt or dis-similar morph.

I would separate them and try to get a more suitable male or two for that large female.

It doesn't take too long for dart frogs to stress and go downhill.
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:56 AM
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Good advice.
I do want to add that your tinctorius both look realy skinny...
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Old 08-13-2019, 08:08 AM
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Around sec 38 in the clip, you get a good view of this
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Old 08-13-2019, 04:47 PM
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I disagree with you on being underfed. The male is borderline obese. He can’t really pull his legs into his body. The female has a low hanging belly, so standing it looks skinny because she’s tall. Taken this morning of her.

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Old 08-13-2019, 05:18 PM
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The picture you post is far from obese. I agree with Tijl that they could use a bit more fat.

For reference, this is a male auratus of mine against the window. I would describe him as being fat for a male.
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Your picture even shows better how skinny she is. Im not saying she is underfed, this could also be parasites. But your frog defenitly is not looking healthy
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:06 PM
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I've noticed this in my thumbnails -- a frog that always looks to have a healthy/plus weight (all my herps run heavy...) looks really thin when it is in a certain posture from an unflattering angle. More than once I've done a double take and wondered what the H was going on, until I realized it was some sort of 'opposite Instagram' effect.

Not an expert opinion, but I think your frogs look great, DPfarr.
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:21 PM
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I've noticed this in my thumbnails -- a frog that always looks to have a healthy/plus weight (all my herps run heavy...) looks really thin when it is in a certain posture from an unflattering angle. More than once I've done a double take and wondered what the H was going on, until I realized it was some sort of 'opposite Instagram' effect.

Not an expert opinion, but I think your frogs look great, DPfarr.
Yes this also could be the case if it were only one photo but please check the Youtube clip on 0:38 , then rewatch the clip to watch the animals better and you will see the frog has her sides completly fallen in.
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I will grab some fecal material and make some slides.

I also pulled a dozen Musca domestica from the lab to give her that extra bit of fat for egg production.
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Neither of them are skinny. The male looks robust to me (see attached chart, which Nikki over on FB has posted several times - I forgot where she said she got it). Most people keep their frogs way way too heavy. Surinam Cobalts are large locales for tincs. The females especially so. If the male is only a year old, he's not fully grown yet. He's likely mature enough to breed, but it's unlikely he's reached his full size yet. I would separate them and let him grow out several more months, so he catches up a little more to the female.
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