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Old 03-21-2007, 05:53 PM
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Hey guys, finally my Rio Branco pair laid 10 eggs. I think 3-4 of them are developing right now. They were laid on a brom leaf, but every once in a while when I check on them they are pushed down into the axil of the brom. Is the female doing this? I did see her guarding the eggs, or are they sliding down the leaf by gravity. I have pulled them back up onto the leaf a few times now, just because I don't think the female will be able to get that deep into the brom axil to get the tads. What do you think?
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Hey guys, finally my Rio Branco pair laid 10 eggs. I think 3-4 of them are developing right now. They were laid on a brom leaf, but every once in a while when I check on them they are pushed down into the axil of the brom. Is the female doing this? I did see her guarding the eggs, or are they sliding down the leaf by gravity. I have pulled them back up onto the leaf a few times now, just because I don't think the female will be able to get that deep into the brom axil to get the tads. What do you think?
I dont think you need to worry.

I would hesitate playing with the eggs. If this batch doesnt make it I am sure you will see more soon. Pums often lay more eggs than they can care for....

but, these may work out fine.

perhaps a brom with a larger leaf span/larger axils if this one is 'tight' but the pums will squeeze into anything they can.

take care

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Yes but would not going into the water in the brom axil most likely kill or drown the eggs if they got pushed down into it?
By the way how do you see your frogs with those dark goggles on all the time?
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Yes but would not going into the water in the brom axil most likely kill or drown the eggs if they got pushed down into it?
By the way how do you see your frogs with those dark goggles on all the time?
Your a funny man Mark :-) very funny.

I only wear the goggles in the water...and in bed :wink:

I dont think they will end up in the water, but if they do, they can still develop fine. Some frogs, vents for instance, prefer to lay even under the waters edge.

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I was asking because my latest Colon clutch was on the verge of being pushed into the water and I too moved it to safety, the tads are a day or 2 from hatching. Guess I will find out if I screwed up when tad transport time comes.
Do you wear the hat to bed as well as I must say that is very snappy look!
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I was asking because my latest Colon clutch was on the verge of being pushed into the water and I too moved it to safety, the tads are a day or 2 from hatching. Guess I will find out if I screwed up when tad transport time comes.
Do you wear the hat to bed as well as I must say that is very snappy look!
It's not a HAT silly man, it's a CAP. Geez. :wink:

I dont think moving them a tiny bit will disrupt tad transport (like scaring a mother bird from caring for its young), but I worry touching them might kill them off. I tend to leave things alone and let the parents figure it out. Perhaps they make a mistake or 2 along the way...but eventually things usually work out. Better broms with more 'space' might help.

In many a pum tank I've seen, the set up is so cluttered with plant material that eggs likely get lost, moved, fall off, dry up...all the time...then again plenty make it into broms and do fine.

Now get the colons doing well and send my some froglets will you.

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Got my fingers crossed, 6 huge tads that are wiggling like crazy. I figured 6 is too many for one female, thinking of moving one or 2 in with my extra female after i see if they get transported.
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Well the thing is, there was no water in the axil where they were being pushed down. The brom leaf that the eggs were on was at the base of the stolon and did not form a water tight pocket. That's why I was worried about the female getting them out.
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Well the thing is, there was no water in the axil where they were being pushed down. The brom leaf that the eggs were on was at the base of the stolon and did not form a water tight pocket. That's why I was worried about the female getting them out.
ah well, you might have a good point there. Your intervention then seems justified. Certainly hope it works out for you.

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My last escudo cluch kept sliding down the brom leaf ( I think it's mostly gravity and the gell seems to get thinner the closer they get to being ready to transport ) and I decided to move ( slide ) them up a little so they would not slide down were they would not be able to get to them . I just pushed them gently with a dull knife . No problems , she ended up transporting them a few days later . All five of them. That's not saying that all pumilio will but mine had no problems with me moveing them .
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