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Old 01-30-2013, 08:10 PM
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Hey, many of y'all know me as the immature ammature hobbyist anxious to set up a multispecies exhibit. those of you who have read my previous posts know that i own 1 lonely ancon hill and am always trying to find the perfect combination for him......soooooooo.......what about a crestie? i always end up discarding my multispecies ideas because they turn out to be risky but the only problem i could think of for a crested gecko is that they are from opposite parts of the world. i would quarantine the gecko to help lower risks slightly. by the way, i have access to a free gecko when normally they carry a large price. comments and concerns are appreciated though only if they aren't laced with spite.
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Have you ever kept a crested?

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My advice is that you keep your PDF in one viv and your gecko in another. They do not belong together. Just like two different morphs of any PDF don't belong together. If you can't be happy keeping your animals safe, happy and with others they actually belong with, perhaps this hobby isn't the best for you. I'm not trying to be rude or talk down to you, but you obviously you like these animals so put their health and wellbeing before your want to mix them together.

Don't do something that will warrent everyone on this forum to say they told you so. And you end up with an injured, dead, or unhealthy animal, because you wanted to try this. It's not worth it.

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Why not get a female ancon hill?

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No. This will not work. They have very different requirements, and the humidity alone is a deal breaker.
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I think if you researched the needs of these two animals, you'd quickly figure out this would not be a workable idea. First, a crested gecko is a fairly large animal in comparison to a D. auratus. I would be extremely surprised if the gecko didn't at least have an exploratory go at the frog at some point. Second, as always with animals from different regions of the world, you run the risk of novel pathogens. Third, and most obvious, is the different care/enclosure needs of these two animals. The high humidity required to keep darts is certain death for crested geckos. They are unable to spend long periods under high humidity, and would surely result in a plethora of bacterial infections.

In all honesty, I could probably write up another fifty reasons for you, but I'll stop here, hoping these are enough to dissuade you.

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The reason I asked if you ever kept a crested gecko before is because if you have ever witnessed their feeding response it is ridiculous. They literally dive at their food and ask questions later, that's not good for a small amphibian.

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We went through this question in 09 with "tasteslikechicken"--thread lasted 16 *#[email protected] pages...

Do not try this--it will not work.

I usually am taken aback by the many "veterans" who pounce on young people who don't know better; there was time when many of us were innocent and did not know. That said, I must be honest, you are trying our patience. It is as if you have your heart set on something, and are looking for someone, anyone, to approve of your desire. "But I like these two species, and want to find a way to mix them." Well, I like gouramis and chinchillas, see where I'm going? So be it...

Crested geckos (now Correlophus) come from New Caledonia. No amphibians, they did not co-evolve with amphibians. What makes you think the crested needs (or wants) company? The previous poster is right--with that big head they will grab first. Also, they do not want or need the high humidity needed for most dart tanks. Have you ever seen a book on Rhacodactylus that says it is okay to mix them? No, you have not. So why are you asking here?!?

You have not answered Dendroguy's question: Why not get more auratus?

MantisDragon and I have both had success with multi-species exhibits, but we don't play games with Rhacodactylus or dendrobatids. Do your homework, learn how to grow the plants, and we'll be happy to show you some combos that work. First rule, they should be always species that come from the same climate in the same part of the world. That said, even these combinations are by no means risk-free.

For example:

North American hylids with green anoles
Western green toads with canyon tree frogs
Reed frogs with small phelsuma
Madagascar reed frogs with certain mantellas
Asian rhacophorines with Phelsuma or Acanthosaura
Bombina orientalis with Paramesotriton
Litoria with Lophognathus

and if you actually know what you're doing:

(some) dendrobatids with (some) neotropical hylids

I have even seen zoos keep Cuora with Physignathus cocincinus

--in a huge enclosure, but you knew that...

But if you're going to ask, "Why reed frogs but not dart frogs?" or "Why flying geckos but not crested geckos?" This just shows you do not know quite enough about the animals to attempt this kind of project. For example, I keep hylids and rhacophorids that sometimes bask--they can tolerate more heat than any dendrobatid. Ed is a professional, and he has posted guidelines on mixed/multi-species exhibits, with contributions from other DB veterans. I suggest you read it, and study up on the concepts.

Now, please don't ask us if you can keep a bearded dragon with your axolotl
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Hey Groundhog, I have kept plecos and rats together with great success, so your combo may work. I joke of course.

Is there a possibility that this poster wants attention, and knows that if he mentions mixing species he will have every member on DendroBoards writing him a book on why he should not do this? If this is the case I'm not helping so that's everything I have to say on the subject.

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Hey Groundhog, I have kept plecos and rats together with great success, so your combo may work. I joke of course.

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What pH range?

Seriously get over to the Lounge and check out the paludarium I posted--this guy actually keeps canaries with puffer fish. I ain't making this up... (Oops, did the OP see this?)
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What pH range?

Seriously get over to the Lounge and check out the paludarium I posted--this guy actually keeps canaries with puffer fish. I ain't making this up... (Oops, did the OP see this?)
I was going to do a paludarium, but rats swim pretty well, and they are cheap enough to replace. Also the plecos don't mind shallow water. PH is all over, what with all the rat urine and feces.

But seriously puffers and canaries? That's crazier than cresteds and darts..

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Don't take my word for it--check it out in the Lounge!
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okay...okay -- i get it! haha lol.
wasn't trying to do anything wrong, just seeing if it was safe.
that is just another bad idea of mine discarded. The reason i don't want a female Ancon Hill is cuz i don't want to have to deal with breeding. I know it isn't likely but i don"t want to chance it.
some of yall were pretty rude though. i know you don't give a f*%$, but this is the last post of mine you'll see on this forum.

PS i keep my hedgehog with my ferret no joke.....the only incident was when the ferret scratched the hedgehogs eye
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The reason I asked if you ever kept a crested gecko before is because if you have ever witnessed their feeding response it is ridiculous. They literally dive at their food and ask questions later, that's not good for a small amphibian.

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okay...okay -- i get it! haha lol.
wasn't trying to do anything wrong, just seeing if it was safe.
that is just another bad idea of mine discarded. The reason i don't want a female Ancon Hill is cuz i don't want to have to deal with breeding. I know it isn't likely but i don"t want to chance it.
some of yall were pretty rude though. i know you don't give a f*%$, but this is the last post of mine you'll see on this forum.

PS i keep my hedgehog with my ferret no joke.....the only incident was when the ferret scratched the hedgehogs eye
Freeze the eggs. Or give the froglets to a pet shop.

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