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when is the best time of day to mist? Is it better to mist in the morning or the evening before the lights go off? I know this isn't a feeding thread but I am realizing that misting and flies don't always go together and the water seems to trap and kill some flies. So, do I feed in the morning and mist in the evening or feed in the evening and mist in the morning. My viv is still only a month old and I feel like it needs a bit more misting especially for the moss. I just added my first frogs this week and I am just realizing the issue with misting and flies. Even if I feed flies every other day I still feel like I need to separate feeding and misting for a certain amount of time.
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when is the best time of day to mist? Is it better to mist in the morning or the evening before the lights go off? I know this isn't a feeding thread but I am realizing that misting and flies don't always go together and the water seems to trap and kill some flies. So, do I feed in the morning and mist in the evening or feed in the evening and mist in the morning. My viv is still only a month old and I feel like it needs a bit more misting especially for the moss. I just added my first frogs this week and I am just realizing the issue with misting and flies. Even if I feed flies every other day I still feel like I need to separate feeding and misting for a certain amount of time.
It shouldn't be a matter of day or night between either.
If your tank is still too wet within a few hours of misting, to the point that you're not comfortable feeding due to moisture, than you're misting too much or your tank doesn't have enough ventilation.

Your top layer of your tank, (plants & leaf litter), should be dry within a few hours of misting. If it's not, then you have some things to figure out.
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It shouldn't be a matter of day or night between either.
If your tank is still too wet within a few hours of misting, to the point that you're not comfortable feeding due to moisture, than you're misting too much or your tank doesn't have enough ventilation.

Your top layer of your tank, (plants & leaf litter), should be dry within a few hours of misting. If it's not, then you have some things to figure out.
Ok, I think I am just overcomplicating things. I didn't mist at all yesterday and still maintained a humidity in the upper 80s all day and this morning it was in the low 90s (Per my ExoTerra dual temp/hydro). I was getting concerned last evening after not misting because my mosses towards the top of the viv were looking pretty dry.

Otherwise plants and leaf litter do dry out completely after a few hours. I have a Zoomed with the ventilation below the door and a 1 inch vent on the top.
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I overcomplicate misting as well. Now that my one viv has been running for a few months I now realize that over misting is worse than under misting. If you under mist and have a water bowl for the frogs, this is generally better for plant growth. By under misting i mean letting humidity drop to 65% or so. It seems, if you over mist, plants will suffer, and the death and decay could be bad for the frogs(I would think?). I really feel like letting the water evaporate from the false bottom naturally keeps the tank humid enough (70s+) and any other additional misting should be for plants and mosses. I find that when water is in my false bottom, I literally can mist every three days and still maintain a range of 90%-70% humidity consistently. I was definitely over misting at first and learned my lesson through dead plants and rotting broms. I'm still learning, but over misting really hurt me at first. I actually keep very little water in my false bottom now and I try to let it evaporate into the substrate/tank before adding more to it or misting heavily. This is just what I found works for me in that tank. I think misting is something that new people freak themselves out about (myself included).

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A very helpful discussion with some good points and tips from senior members. Thank you.
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I overcomplicate misting as well. Now that my one viv has been running for a few months I now realize that over misting is worse than under misting. If you under mist and have a water bowl for the frogs, this is generally better for plant growth. By under misting i mean letting humidity drop to 65% or so. It seems, if you over mist, plants will suffer, and the death and decay could be bad for the frogs(I would think?). I really feel like letting the water evaporate from the false bottom naturally keeps the tank humid enough (70s+) and any other additional misting should be for plants and mosses. I find that when water is in my false bottom, I literally can mist every three days and still maintain a range of 90%-70% humidity consistently. I was definitely over misting at first and learned my lesson through dead plants and rotting broms. I'm still learning, but over misting really hurt me at first. I actually keep very little water in my false bottom now and I try to let it evaporate into the substrate/tank before adding more to it or misting heavily. This is just what I found works for me in that tank. I think misting is something that new people freak themselves out about (myself included).

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Agreed... I actually do it a bit different though. I keep my false bottom nearly full in most of my vivs. That's because many of them have a pond which shares it's water with the false bottom, so if the false bottom is half empty, my pond is half empty. It's pretty easy to mist just enough to keep the water level stable, so that's what I do.

People think they have to saturate everything, and it isn't true. You set your mist system or hand spray so that you just dust everything nicely, and get a little in the substrate to keep it moist and you're good to go. If you run fans and/or have a lot of ventilation, or a dry climate you may need to mist a bit more.

My vivs typically have 1-2 inch ventilation strip running along the front or back. The false bottom is mostly full for the ponds, and when it is like that I can go without misting for over a month. I get condensation on the glass in the mornings, and I still occasionally kill a plant due to root rot in some older vivs I haven't misted in weeks that don't have a faster draining substrate. Basically moist substrate = you're fine, unless you have an all screen top maybe. But sure the frogs will still like an occasional shower and it may make them more visible and active for longer periods during the day.

Now for breeding this isn't ideal, because it is best to be able to do dry and wet seasons without killing your plants. If you set your viv up right, and chose your plants well that should be entirely possible. I need to run more fans and I'd be all set, but I'm poor.

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So how many head do I use i have a 72 gallon tank and want to set up an automatic misting system just don't know how many heads to use
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So how many head do I use i have a 72 gallon tank and want to set up an automatic misting system just don't know how many heads to use
Hard to say, as it's all personal preference.
There's no steadfast rule.

You can use one head or use 2. Single nozzle or double nozzle.
You can just lessen or lengthen the time of spray depending on how many you use.

I personally use 2 single heads on my 55s & one head on everything else.
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the # of heads depends entirely on where you need the mist to go. I need to mist heavy on the sides of my larger tanks for the ochids- not so much in the middle... so for a 30" wide tank I use 2 heads. If I had a more evenly planted tank, Id want 3, or 2 dual heads



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Generally speaking I am planning to mist according to the seasons. So I have can my warmer rainy seasons and the dryer cooler seasons. My fear is misting too much and using too many heads.

Having no experience with misting systems like mistking I am unsure of how many will do the job I want it too.The first system ill be running will be 18'' cube vivs. I have been thinking two heads. Ill be using hygrolon on the walls for moss growth, but those will have tails that will drop into the water table. So I shouldnt need to hit them terribly much. Does anyone have any recommendations? By not using so many it would be nice, as heads can be expensive.

Also does anyone know the spray radius of a single nozzle placed top center?
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This is a very good thread. I have a 46g bowfront set up which I had running for a year before adding my Leucs. I was terrified to add frogs and have them die if I didn't have things running correctly. So for my first Viv I got my plants started, have a self contained water feature and also a false bottom. I keep a 3in fan running up in the back corner to keep air circulating and I used a misting schedule (I have the beginner pkg from MistKing) I found here www.mistking.com/MistingChapter.pdf which was written by MistKing and Joshs Frogs. After reading these posts I think I can and will adjust my schedule to mist less. My temp holds pretty steady at 70 degrees dipping overnight to 65 and my humidity averages 80%. My frogs seem very content and are often out and about in the Viv. I can say my tank does not have a bad odor or signs of mold, actually has a fresh forest smell after the misters go off. My water that I tapped from the false bottom is just slightly yellowish and has no odor or bad taste (yes only by accident when my syphon lost its suction).
So it seems to be what works best for you and your setup but all in all a good thread for beginners to read and get started.
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This is fantastic thanks for the advice.
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Thanks, guys! This is very helpful!
My tank is a week old and I've been misting a few times everyday because it dries out pretty quickly. My tank is an ExoTerra 18x18x24 with the screen top so lots of circulation. Then, I put in two glass panels on the top yesterday and this morning it was still humid ~90%. I have a fan, but have not been using it, but I guess I'm going to have to start now.

Question: With the addition of the glass panels the tanks stay pretty humid, if I run the fan periodically and I have a fogger, do I still need to mist? Can the fogger replace misting?
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Oops putting those glass pieces should help a lot.
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I mist my tank once in the morning for the orchids and use the fogger to maintain humidity throughout the day. If your tank can hold 90% humidity all day, you may not even need the fogger.
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I was wondering if one can get to a point where misting is no longer required if the tank maintains a high humidity from the fogger and the waterfall, pond or will we be required to mist to keep certain plants healthy such as orchids and terrestrial plants?
The reason I'm asking is because I wasn't going to install an automatic mister and continue to mist manually until things get established. I have a fogger on a timer and was hoping at some point to rely on it to keep everything healthy.

Has anyone tried this?

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I have seen tanks which operate only with a fogger no misting yes.

Your setup is individual to you and you will need to play with it. Whatever you choose may eliminate some plants from surviving in your system.

The best example is that I have some tanks which are essentially sealed. There is no ventilation other than small cracks around the sides of the top. They can go for a year without any misting and some plants and dart frogs seem to be fine in them. It is however to stagnant for many orchids.
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The best example is that I have some tanks which are essentially sealed. There is no ventilation other than small cracks around the sides of the top. They can go for a year without any misting and some plants and dart frogs seem to be fine in them. It is however to stagnant for many orchids.
But the downside these tightly seen enclosures are that you need to keep the frogs and enclosures at temperatures that are not optimal for them or their offspring. This is where the recommendations to keep the cages under 75 F originated.

Additionally these kinds of stagnant air conditions are also often implicated in the shorter lifespan of bromeliads.

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Great thread!! Thank you everyone for the information provided!!
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Thanks for the precious info... Now I'm sure I was misting my tank too much...
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Glad I read this before getting my mister started, I would have watered the crap out of everything!
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i'm pretty new to the dart frog hobby and just started a new tank (completely covered, only ventilation is the strip below the door and the seams around them on an exo terra tank). i started with daily mistings/sprayings of everything until my glass started to look like someone was taking a shower in the tank and just covered with condensation that would drip down the top and sides. i thought everything was supposed to look "wet" all the time. i recently bought a hygrometer and decided to space the spraying to once every 2-3 days because the hygrometer would constantly read 99% (i don't think it goes to 100) even after i leave the doors open for a few mins to watch my froglets. Am i just overly worried about keeping things wet? i also just wanted to help my newly planted plants take root and i assumed watering them would help with that... any recommendations on how to better get things going?
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My opinion add a 2" wide vent on top. Nothing likes constant super high humidity except mold and bad stuff. Imo you basically have a totally sealed viv so I would keep my temps away from 80.

A fan over the vent would help as well. Can you spot spray the pants? Right now I would let everything dry out to safe level. Periodically check your rh with the hygrometer. Shoot for a rh in the range of 75-90. Once your plants and everything get acclimated then it should be stabilize.

You'll get the hang of it. Most over mist at first. I mist roughly 3-4xweek right now with my fan running dang near constantly at med speed. In the winter I mist 1-3x weekly with my fan on spaced intervals. I don't saturate anything either just make it damp. I find if my rh is under 90 and I have good ventilation my frogs can handle higher temp swings with ease (I don't sweat 80F).

You'll have to figure out what works best with your climate wherever you live.
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I don't like to completely cover my tank tops. I would have a strip of ventilation at the top, if you can. If it's glass, you can have a glass shop cut off a 3 or 4" strip, if you want. Then you can cover it with plastic wrap, as needed, if you get too much ventilation. You should worry about too-high humidity. You want it between 60 and 80%, not 100%. It's better for the frogs. You might want to consider an internal circulation fan, too, blowing at the front glass.

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Keeping everything as sealed as possible is an older, phased out practice of the hobby. The ventilation that you are describing is way too small and ineffective. Having humidity consistently above 85-90% really is not the way to go. Dart frogs thermoregulate through evaporation, and having that high of humidity means that small spikes in temperature even might result in frog deaths because they cannot thermoregulate. Also, having a tank that wet and humid simply begs for bacteria and to grow, and people have had their frogs' legs literally melt off over night due to the moisture levels.

I would also highly encourage you to install a 2-3" screen vent across the top of your tank. You really should be shooting for 70-80% humidity. I mist once a day, and I have an internal circulation fan. I like for some of the sphagnum moss on my background to dry out just a little bit before misting. It's ok to have some condensation on the front glass for a couple of hours after misting, but it certainly shouldn't be looking like a shower door. Don't mean to overkill it with all of the replies, but I feel that this should be stressed. I see too many people being told to completely close up their tank.
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You should worry. You're keeping things too wet.

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You'll have to figure out what works best with your climate wherever you live.
This is exactly right. That's why hard and fast rules about frequency, duration, or intensity of "precip" can't be provided. Really, the above quote is the ONLY hard and fast rule! Even within a herp room you will note microclimatic differences, depending e.g. on proximity to space heaters, HVAC vents, windows, floor or ceiling etc. Just observe closely and adjust as needed. The key is to understand what you are shooting for. Constant 99% humidity is not it!

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I have my mistking set to mist for 1 minute every morning. It’s a 30 gal tank. Everything seems to be going fine.
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Sweet thread everyone! it was just what I needed! I added 9 bromeliads and a bunch of spanish moss and my humidity has shot through the roof. Looks like it'll be once a day 3 a week after I get my system a bit dryer.

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Initially I planned to have two seasons in my tank with dryer cooler winter. The natural way to do it is to spray more in summer and less in the winter. Now with 1,5 years experience I know that I really need to do the opposite.

I live in Southern sweden where it gets quite cold (ie dry). My house is heated by fire wood. So the inside air is extremelly dry. The house is a little bit colder in the days, when I am at work. The temperature in the tank is controlled by a heat pad under the false bottom and one on the side facing the out wall. Theese are also contributing to dry up things. So in the winter time the tank dries up extremely fast. 3 hour after spray it is bone dry and needs spray again. Even with this scedule the false bottom dries out and needs to fill up again. I am pushing air thrue the tank by fan when the humidity raise over 80%, but still it is down at 45-50% before next spray. I reccon I am at the sweet spot for a dry season with this scedule.

In the summer when the humidity in the house is higher, I just need to mist one time in the morning to maintain 90% to 70% during the day. The fan is runnig quite often to push the humidity down. And I need to drain the false bottom once in a while.

So that is how big impact your house climate can impact the need for spraying. That is why experience under your conditions is more important than general advises you can find here and there.

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Initially I planned to have two seasons in my tank with dryer cooler winter. The natural way to do it is to spray more in summer and less in the winter. Now with 1,5 years experience I know that I really need to do the opposite.

I live in Southern sweden where it gets quite cold (ie dry). My house is heated by fire wood. So the inside air is extremelly dry. The house is a little bit colder in the days, when I am at work. The temperature in the tank is controlled by a heat pad under the false bottom and one on the side facing the out wall. Theese are also contributing to dry up things. So in the winter time the tank dries up extremely fast. 3 hour after spray it is bone dry and needs spray again. Even with this scedule the false bottom dries out and needs to fill up again. I am pushing air thrue the tank by fan when the humidity raise over 80%, but still it is down at 45-50% before next spray. I reccon I am at the sweet spot for a dry season with this scedule.

In the summer when the humidity in the house is higher, I just need to mist one time in the morning to maintain 90% to 70% during the day. The fan is runnig quite often to push the humidity down. And I need to drain the false bottom once in a while.

So that is how big impact your house climate can impact the need for spraying. That is why experience under your conditions is more important than general advises you can find here and there.

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Are you able to control when the frogs breed with this setup? My frogs rest in the winter because I reduce the amount of misting in the winter. I usually control the humidity by covering some vents so it stays more humid with a lesser frequency of misting. Do you have any trouble with the frogs breeding year-round?

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Are you able to control when the frogs breed with this setup? My frogs rest in the winter because I reduce the amount of misting in the winter. I usually control the humidity by covering some vents so it stays more humid with a lesser frequency of misting. Do you have any trouble with the frogs breeding year-round?

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Thanks for your input.

My frogs are not yet old enough to breed. I am not sure if they are triggered by Rain, temperature or increasing temperatures.....or a combination. Maybe next year i will find out?

I have had a plan to cover the upper ventilation to reduce the passive ventilation and therby increasing the active ventilation. But I havent put the plan to action yet. I want to evaluate one change at the time.

Last time i had frogs it was in a room full of aquariums and quite stable temperatures. It was much easier. Not much more than watering the plants.

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Thanks for your input.

My frogs are not yet old enough to breed. I am not sure if they are triggered by Rain, temperature or increasing temperatures.....or a combination. Maybe next year i will find out?

I have had a plan to cover the upper ventilation to reduce the passive ventilation and therby increasing the active ventilation. But I havent put the plan to action yet. I want to evaluate one change at the time.

Last time i had frogs it was in a room full of aquariums and quite stable temperatures. It was much easier. Not much more than watering the plants.

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Yeah, I am sure you will get it figured out. The only issue is that the breeding triggers, at least for my frogs, seem to be increasing misting with warmer temperatures. If those things are separated in your system (warmer temps with drier conditions), they may get a little confused. I am guessing, though, that the warmer temperatures will end up winning out in the end and that you will end up having a breeding season in Spring/Summer, but there is no guarantee. I have friends whose breeding season is in winter because the furnace keeps their house the warmest during that time :-) The only real danger is that they start breeding and don't know when to stop. That can lead to deficiencies in nutrients.

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Initially I planned to have two seasons in my tank with dryer cooler winter. The natural way to do it is to spray more in summer and less in the winter. Now with 1,5 years experience I know that I really need to do the opposite.

I live in Southern sweden where it gets quite cold (ie dry). My house is heated by fire wood. So the inside air is extremelly dry. The house is a little bit colder in the days, when I am at work. The temperature in the tank is controlled by a heat pad under the false bottom and one on the side facing the out wall. Theese are also contributing to dry up things. So in the winter time the tank dries up extremely fast. 3 hour after spray it is bone dry and needs spray again. Even with this scedule the false bottom dries out and needs to fill up again. I am pushing air thrue the tank by fan when the humidity raise over 80%, but still it is down at 45-50% before next spray. I reccon I am at the sweet spot for a dry season with this scedule.

In the summer when the humidity in the house is higher, I just need to mist one time in the morning to maintain 90% to 70% during the day. The fan is runnig quite often to push the humidity down. And I need to drain the false bottom once in a while.

So that is how big impact your house climate can impact the need for spraying. That is why experience under your conditions is more important than general advises you can find here and there.

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Great info Magnus. It did rain on Thursday and humidity outside stayed around 60 all weekend so that was definitely a contributing factor. What type of fans do you currently use to draw the air out? I currently use a computer fan attached to my 2" bulkhead on the lower side of my system. I have been thinking of using the same fan I use for circulation which is a 4" fan. I have a paludarium so my humidity probably has a strong chance of swings so I ordered a humidity controller to hook up to my fan and possibly mister.

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I guess that's another Question. Has anyone ran their misters on a humidity controller or would that be to risky? Also I imagine that you would only want a 10 swing +5/-5 from your ideal number for the season

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Great info Magnus. It did rain on Thursday and humidity outside stayed around 60 all weekend so that was definitely a contributing factor. What type of fans do you currently use to draw the air out? I currently use a computer fan attached to my 2" bulkhead on the lower side of my system. I have been thinking of using the same fan I use for circulation which is a 4" fan. I have a paludarium so my humidity probably has a strong chance of swings so I ordered a humidity controller to hook up to my fan and possibly mister.

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I use a computer fan which pushes the air from the canopy abowe the tank. So it pushes air that is preheated and dry by the light fixture into the tank and out thrue the front ventilation. It is running om humidity controller.

I would not advice om running humidity controller mist system. The tank really need to dry up good inbetween misting cycles. And there is a big risk on flooding the tank on dry days.

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I mist by hand twice a day
I go all over the terrarium with the spray
and as I mist I see flies moving about
this bring the pdf out and they start hunting the flies
I know the pdf don't like being sprayed as they move out of the way
but will come back out to get the flies when I stop spraying
so must of the spraying I do is for the plants and humidity
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Thanks, guys! This is very helpful!
My tank is a week old and I've been misting a few times everyday because it dries out pretty quickly. My tank is an ExoTerra 18x18x24 with the screen top so lots of circulation. Then, I put in two glass panels on the top yesterday and this morning it was still humid ~90%. I have a fan, but have not been using it, but I guess I'm going to have to start now.

Question: With the addition of the glass panels the tanks stay pretty humid, if I run the fan periodically and I have a fogger, do I still need to mist? Can the fogger replace misting?
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Being only a week old, your tank is a just baby. It will take time to grow in / settle in. If you have a fogger, a mister is not essential. If you have both you are simulating rain with the misters, and cloudy fog with a fogger.

As many have correctly said variables, variables, variables.


Where you live and the season you are living through will impact how often you have to mist / fog. The types of heating / cooling systems that you have will affect how often to mist.

Living in the Texas or Arizona desert, you face arid / dry humidity which has to be addressed by fogging and misting. If you have to run air-conditioning that will also dry out the air. If you live along the coast and have high external humidity you have other issues.

If you live in cold climates your heating system may dry the air during the winter. This can often be seen in hardwood floors. During the winter the HVAC system drys out the floors and our tanks, and you may notice cracking and separation in the hardwood flooring due to this drying out of the air due to their heating system. Some folks have humidifiers as part of their heating systems in order to reintroduce moisture to the air. Misting our tanks does the same thing. When you turn off the heat during the summer the floors will reabsorb moisture and the flooring cracks will disappear. The amount of misting needed will change noticeably as well.

Running fans inside the tank will help dry out the plants while still maintaining higher levels of humidity within the tanks.

With regards to our frogs, something that has been hinted at but never really discussed is the frogs in their natural habitat often have annual rainy seasons which stimulate breeding. Drying out the tank over a period of time will help frogs get a rest from breeding. On the other hand sometimes dropping the humidity for a period of time, sometimes for a few months, and then increasing the misting / fogging while also increasing the amount of food in the tank will help stimulate the return of their natural rain cycle and which simulates the normal increase in rainforest insects which for our frogs can stimulate an increase in breeding.


The right levels of misting and fogging will help with tank husbandry both of frog food (spring tails and isopods and of our frogs themselves.

Variables, Variables.

It's all about learning about our wonderful frogs and their life cycles.
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Valuable info here for sure but what I have learned is that one size does not fit all. I've a 55g converted aquarium, a MistKing with four nozzles and 10 seconds twice a day seems to be just about giving enough moisture without going over the top. There are definitely horizontal 'zones' in there; wet at the bottom to dry(ish) at the top.

This however seems crazy advice for a beginner:

From www.mistking.com/MistingChapter.pdf, written by MistKing and Joshs Frogs.

• 45 second at 7 am to get the
Vivarium re-hydrated from the night
and to wake up the occupants with a
refreshing morning shower,

• 20 seconds at 9am, 11:30am,
2:30pm, 4pm to maintain the
humidity throughout the day.

• 1 minute 30 seconds at 5:30pm for a
little afternoon drenching.

• Then 40 seconds at 8:30PM right
before lights out to keep the
enclosure nice and moist for the
night.

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