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Old 04-06-2010, 06:55 PM
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Default Cobalts fighting. Have a few questions.

So I recently purchased a mated pair of cobalts. The have been with each other for around 2 years. The guy I got them from says he's gotten eggs, but never had a successful clutch.

Anyways, I bought them, took them home, and put them in a quarantine tank until I can get their fecals sent off & start doing the tank wash/switch shuffle. The first day in there the girl, or who I am pretty sure is the girl, followed the boy around, and petted him a bit, then jumped on his back and started doing a humping action. It started to look pretty aggressive. After a couple of hours they chilled out, and hung out in different places. The next day they were cuddly with one another, and she petted him a bit. They followed one another and spent lots of time with each other in their cocohut.

Today they are all out fighting. Neither one has held the other one flat, but they are definitely going at it hard core. It doesn't look like the original raping that it appeared to be], or the cuddling they did the next day. They are grabbing one another, wrestling, pushing each other around. The one I spied as the girl seems to be the aggressor, but the boy is doing his fair share too.

Anyways, I separated them and want some advice. What should I do?

I have a fear they've been improperly sexed and are both the same sex. Their difference are quite as pronounced as other tincs I've looked at, but then again, I'm not the best sexer.

The guy I got them from has another tank of a supposed pair which I will be picking up from him in the next day or two. He's definitely gotten babies from one of the tanks, as he has young cobalt froglets now, but has moved the tanks a few times so he can't be sure which is the one he got them from.

Anyways, here's 2 pictures of each one of the two I have.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. These are some aggressive bastards!

Many thanks,

~Tobias
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Default Re: Cobalts fighting. Have a few questions.

Sounds and looks like 2 girls.
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Default Re: Cobalts fighting. Have a few questions.

Going by the pics, I'd say you've got two females.
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then jumped on his back and started doing a humping action. It started to look pretty aggressive. After a couple of hours they chilled out, and hung out in different places.
...now this sounds all too familiar :P

I'm sorry couldn't help myself.

Anyway, all that aggression seems like they could be two females.
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Default Re: Cobalts fighting. Have a few questions.

You know, part of me thought so, but the one with the lighter feet has such big toes, and not as big of a belly, but they're both about the same size,... Also, I've never had as much trouble sexing tincs before....

Well, if that ends up being the case, I'm picking up another proven pair tonight(The other of the tanks I mentioned that this one got mixed with.) I'll give the boy a pick if their all girls, then, if these both are girls, I'll have a girl to trade for a boy.

Any more feedback is welcome. Before the brawl the darker one was pawing the light footed one,...
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Default Re: Cobalts fighting. Have a few questions.

Just thought I would chime in. I have two very proven pairs of tincs that will occasionally fight for long periods of time, fighting does not always mean female, Bill
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Default Re: Cobalts fighting. Have a few questions.

The frog in the second photo from the left looks to be a male (in male tincs, there is a clear separation between the two toes). Pairs do fight, especially if the female "wants to", but the male "has a headache". Males will also wrestle females if they feel their girl could be stolen by another male.

I would just give them time to settle-in. Moving is always stressful for frogs.

Good luck, Richard.
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Default Re: Cobalts fighting. Have a few questions.

So what's the overall consensus? Correctly mated pair who need time to settle in? Or two females, battling it out?

They had been in their previous tank I bought them out of with each other for about two years.

I just got another cobalt pair, and there's no question which is which in that one. The male is obviously smaller w/ larger toes.

I got those other two I posted about separated right now. They were fighting hard core. Although before that the one I think looks more female was rubbing the others back & thigh.

I'll get better pictures of them later today & put them up.
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Default Re: Cobalts fighting. Have a few questions.

Thought I'd mention: The one I am more likely to call a boy has an indention down the center of his belly. Where as the one I'm more inclined to call female does not. Again, I'm not super familiar with these guys and have not had trouble sexing to the point I needed to notice every little difference before.

Is that indention an indication?

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