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Old 09-01-2009, 04:00 AM
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What would you recommend for ExoTerra Terrarium size:
45 x 45 x 60 cm 18" x 18" x 24" (WxDxH)
At Novice to Intermmediate Care Level?
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Old 09-01-2009, 04:11 AM
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I think a good hardy frog for you would be some azureus, auratus or some leucs. They are all very good looking frogs IMO and would be a great way to really learn the tips and tricks of the trade before moving on to more advanced frogs. With the space that you have set for building a viv, all the above mentioned species would make great use of the area and love you for giving them a little room to run around in.

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Here are some links to caresheets for the above frogs so that you can do a little reading on them. Remember, there are more species that would work, but these seem to be very forgiving frogs.

http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/car...us-novice.html
http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/car...as-novice.html
http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/car...us-novice.html
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Old 09-01-2009, 04:21 AM
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Thanks for the recommendation but tincs are a little on the large size for the space I mentioned don't you think?
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Old 09-01-2009, 04:29 AM
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not at all. thats a down right perfect amount of space for a pair of tincs. also great for group of leucs
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33 gallons is a great size for tincs. I had a pair of tincs in a 37 gallon column with much more height and there was plenty of space for both of them on ground. I've known people to even keep pairs in 10 gallons, but I dont recommend it. I believe 20 gallons or more per pair is much more suitable.

I think you'd find that 33 gallons is a great size. Just be sure to leave lots of hides for the frogs and they'll be as happy as can possibly be.

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Old 09-01-2009, 04:52 AM
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Ok, so I think I know why you all think the size is GREAT and I'm goin huh??? I looked at the box and the size says:

300 x 300 x 450 cm

I'm not very good with metrics but--- guys---
I think there's a slight discrepancy here...
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Hahaha... I was just basing my responses on the 18x18x24".

18 x 18 x 24 = 7,776 cubic inches. 7,776 / 231 = ~33 gallons.

I think you've got a great sized aquarium for a pair of tincs or similarly sized frogs.

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cool.. by the way how much does a polar bear weigh?
and here's one for you... so a whale on tv this week that weighs 300 tons,
how many elephants is that?
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A polar bear weighs just enough to break the ice. Hi! I'm Matt! Nice to meet you!

How many elephants is that whale?

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Nice to meet you Matt!
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Matt, are there any darts comparable to P. Terribillis, or to P. Bicolor in color and appearance that are smaller in size?
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Uh... Only thing I can think of but is hard to come by (I havent seen them for sale in quite awhile) are galacs with a high percentage of color. Most tend to have coloring on the tops of their legs and along their back and head while a rare few will be mostly orange or yellow depending on the color morph you get. Other than that, I really cant think of anything.

You might be able to get away with putting a trio of terribs in your tank, but they get pretty big and might out grow your viv making there be a need for a new tank. If you're up to the possibility of needing a new viv, terribilis are great frogs and have insatiable appetites. Mine dont seem to be afraid of anything and bounce around like popcorn when i put crickets in.

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Yeah--- I plan on getting a few P. Terribillis' but in a larger terrarium. Maybe a 45gal or another 75g. Later, Havn't setup the Az. Terrarium yet. I've been on the forum and into d. frogs for a couple of years just havn't been able to setup yet. I hope to be up and running soon.

so, all in all i'd be happy with 2 terrariums:
1 D. Azurerus, (4), 75g
1 T. Terrebillis, (3), 45-75gal.

Bought my 10 yr. old a ExoTerra, the tall one I mentioned in the beginning of this thread. It's for him, he'll get one D. Az. or a pair or something. Soemthing easy and interesting for him.
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Are you wanting to get 4 d. azureus and 3 p. terribilis?

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Yeah, I'd like to get... 4 Azureus for one terrarium, and 3 Terribillis for another.
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Yeah, I'd like to get... 4 Azureus for one terrarium, and 3 Terribillis for another.
Even for a 75gal, I still would only get a sexed pair of D. Azureus
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Even for a 75gal, I still would only get a sexed pair of D. Azureus
I agree with Hunter here. Even in large aquariums, fighting can occur between competing females which in turn will stress the frogs out terribly. Stress can eventually kill the frogs as well. I think you would be better off with just a pair in the 75.

If you're worried about not ever seeing the frogs, just make sure that the viv is well planted and there are lots of hides for the frogs to escape into and they will feel very comfortable coming out and putting on a show for you every day. The more comfortable they feel in the viv, the more often you'll see them and azureus are pretty bold frogs to begin with!

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