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Old 05-23-2020, 02:38 PM
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Default Frog room location

I apologize if this is the wrong spot for this post. Looking to get back into the hobby and have a few options for a frog room, both have some pros and cons.

Location 1 - spare upstairs bedroom, issue here is the hvac system by the time it reaches upstairs isn’t the most effective for a few reasons, but that’s eventually going to be sorted out. Can buy a window AC for that room if need be.

Location 2 - half finished/ half unfinished basement. I could utilize either side. Issue down there is this town has chronic water penetration in basements. I have French drains, but also have to keep a dehumidifier running. Not sure if having tropical rainforests setup in a room with a dehumidifier would be a issue, or as long as temps are stable and use of a mist king would be fine? Bonus down here is even in summer it’s cool down there.

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Old 05-23-2020, 03:16 PM
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If one room can't have proper climate control then clearly that one is out of contention. Assuming that is a solved issue I would put it in the room you want to spend the most time in. Having the most awesome frogs and vivariums in the world is useless if you only come in to feed and then leave. Does one room lend itself to a study? Could you put a desk in one and have room left for frogs? Might be nice to turn your frog room into an office or computer room.
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Generally we are able to keep the humidity in the preferred 70 to 80% humidity in our mostly sealed glass boxes. Of course passive ventilation is a huge plus, but the outside humidity level doesn't seem to affect too much inside. With a mistking system you should have no problems getting the humidity within an acceptable zone whether you go upstairs or downstairs.

You said frog room, so as vivariums are added, heat from the lights will rise. LEDs help that, but don't eliminate it. Heat generally becomes an issue as collections grow.
It generally costs more to air condition a room than to heat a room. That would point towards using the basement.

It is often easier to talk other family members into another vivarium, when they are not in the rest of the family's living space.

Collections of frogs can sometimes get a little noisy. I used to be able to hear my Allobates zaparo in every room of the house, even through a closed door, and downstairs, over the sound of the movie we were watching upstairs.

These are a few of the things I like to consider, but I think you can guess that my frog room always ends up downstairs.
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no brainer - go with the basement. Hobbyists in FL and other non basement states would kill for a basement frog room.

But....

If you're going to take the plunge and make a frog room, try to do it right, even if that means saving up and delays.

Nothing more frustrating than cutting corners - it's so hard to go backwards and fix stuff after tanks are in.
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If one room can't have proper climate control then clearly that one is out of contention. Assuming that is a solved issue I would put it in the room you want to spend the most time in. Having the most awesome frogs and vivariums in the world is useless if you only come in to feed and then leave. Does one room lend itself to a study? Could you put a desk in one and have room left for frogs? Might be nice to turn your frog room into an office or computer room.
That room is going to get a desk and would still have room for a baker or diy rack. But the finished side of the basement is getting couches and tv soon, so that’s a reason to spend more time down there enjoying them.
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Generally we are able to keep the humidity in the preferred 70 to 80% humidity in our mostly sealed glass boxes. Of course passive ventilation is a huge plus, but the outside humidity level doesn't seem to affect too much inside. With a mistking system you should have no problems getting the humidity within an acceptable zone whether you go upstairs or downstairs.

You said frog room, so as vivariums are added, heat from the lights will rise. LEDs help that, but don't eliminate it. Heat generally becomes an issue as collections grow.
It generally costs more to air condition a room than to heat a room. That would point towards using the basement.

It is often easier to talk other family members into another vivarium, when they are not in the rest of the family's living space.

Collections of frogs can sometimes get a little noisy. I used to be able to hear my Allobates zaparo in every room of the house, even through a closed door, and downstairs, over the sound of the movie we were watching upstairs.

These are a few of the things I like to consider, but I think you can guess that my frog room always ends up downstairs.
Not so much worried about noise or permission for more tanks, but it’s a good point it cost more to cool a room and as the collection grows so will the amount of heat and days of running a window unit. From my reptile breeding days I remember having the window unit running year round in that room. Downstairs I would just have to figure a way to supplement heat since it’s always cooler down there.
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Basement here.
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Basement here.
What area do you live? I’m in the northeast so winter can get cold. What do you use to maintain temps?
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What area do you live? Iím in the northeast so winter can get cold. What do you use to maintain temps?
I'm in Canada actually. The heat from my furnace keeps my basement fairly warm
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no brainer - go with the basement. Hobbyists in FL and other non basement states would kill for a basement frog room.

But....

If you're going to take the plunge and make a frog room, try to do it right, even if that means saving up and delays.

Nothing more frustrating than cutting corners - it's so hard to go backwards and fix stuff after tanks are in.
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Another vote for the basement.

My reptile room is in a corner of the basement. Heat duct runs through the room, so adding a vent was easy; I usually close it in summer when AC is on. Enclosures add a fair amount of heat to the room, though, so the heat vent is usually mostly shut. I tied in to plumbing to add a utility sink and RO feed, and a drain basin to pump the drain water up to the sewer line. Installed outlets and track lighting, and a small fridge for supplements and FF media (and mealworms for other herps, and I brumate snakes in there occasionally). I keep a dedicated electric kettle down there to heat water for FF media. I added a carbon canister and separate exhaust fan (I raise rodents in there, too), and run a humidifier in the winter like we do upstairs. Laid down some indoor outdoor carpeting.

Mistking floods? No worries, there is drain tile. Loose bugs? No big deal. Loose animals? Better there than upstairs, and the door is tight enough to keep the bigger snakes in, anyway.
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Another vote for the basement.

My reptile room is in a corner of the basement. Heat duct runs through the room, so adding a vent was easy; I usually close it in summer when AC is on. Enclosures add a fair amount of heat to the room, though, so the heat vent is usually mostly shut. I tied in to plumbing to add a utility sink and RO feed, and a drain basin to pump the drain water up to the sewer line. Installed outlets and track lighting, and a small fridge for supplements and FF media (and mealworms for other herps, and I brumate snakes in there occasionally). I keep a dedicated electric kettle down there to heat water for FF media. I added a carbon canister and separate exhaust fan (I raise rodents in there, too), and run a humidifier in the winter like we do upstairs. Laid down some indoor outdoor carpeting.

Mistking floods? No worries, there is drain tile. Loose bugs? No big deal. Loose animals? Better there than upstairs, and the door is tight enough to keep the bigger snakes in, anyway. <img src="http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />
Sounds pretty well thought out for sure. When I bred balls and beardies years back I had a nicely setup room, but miat king floods were never a issue. Is that common or at least fairly possible to happen?
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No, Mistking issues of any sort are very rare.

I reprogrammed a timer after adding a half dozen nozzles and tried to delete a misting session by setting the start and stop time to be the same time; that actually sets a start time with no end. Once I figured out the actual delete procedure, I was wetter but wiser.
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No, Mistking issues of any sort are very rare.

I was wetter but wiser. <img src="http://www.dendroboard.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="wink" class="inlineimg" />
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Basement. To be honest, I'd have a tank in EVERY room, but the spouse seems to take offense with that idea.
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