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Old 01-28-2020, 06:03 PM
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Hello kind of new here. I have a few questions for a 75 gallon tank. I am wondering what kind of frogs would be good for this size of setup and how many I should put in it. Also I am trying to get some ideas on plants. So any suggestions would be well welcomed and much appreciated. I do know I am gonna have some bromeliads, miniature orchids and maybe some pitcher plants. I just don't know what kind of miniature orchids.
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Old 01-28-2020, 08:36 PM
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I don't want to come off like a jerk or to give you a lazy reply to search the forum but my strong opinion is that you don't want anyone to tell you what you should keep in your tank. With your tank you have many options and what someone tells you to keep is just going to be their preferred and favorite frogs and favorite orchid. Maybe not yours.

Go slow and take your time. You don't have to (and shouldn't) get everything set up and ready over a weekend. Start with building your plant collection. Start with the plants you know for sure you want. Mosses, some ferns, some vines, some broms? Research orchids while it's growing in and gets established. Get your CUC working and breeding.

There's plenty of things to get busy with without having decided on what species and morph of frog you want to put in there. Let it grow on you. And let the tank get well established before adding any.

And yes, search the forum! Plenty of answers to your questions!
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Old 01-28-2020, 10:54 PM
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Thanks for the reply and I don't think you came off as a jerk either. I planned on taking my time with this. Where would I start looking for plants, like where would I look on the forums and I would like to get some really interesting plants in this. I know you said I should look for frogs that I like but how many dart frogs would be good or recommended for this big of a setup.
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You could check out Glassboxtropicals for plants. He has quite a selection. Not everything is usually in stock but you can get some good ideas by looking at his site. Some of the threads in the Plants forum on this site used to be great for seeing what people were keeping in their tanks. Unfortunately, when photobucket broke the internet, a lot of that was lost.

If you're interested in orchids, check out Andysorchids. They allow you to sort their inventory based on useful characteristics like "miniature" and "vivarium suitable" Orchids can be a bit more finicky than other plants normally grown in vivaria. They tend to like decent air circulation in my very limited experience.

Also, there are several good plant trading facebook pages. PM me and I can send you some links if you're interested.

As for frogs, that's plenty of tank for a pair, or group (depending on species), of pretty much any frog you'd like. The general horizontal orientation makes me think of more terrestrial species like tincs or terribilis, or an Ameerga species. But there's plenty of vertical space there too.

With that size tank I'd be tempted to go with something that I could keep a small group (3-4) of. Again, terribilis or Ameerga of some sort. Possibly certain thumbnails. Leucomelas would be great. Generally avoid Pumilio or tinctorius if you want more than a pair. But don't get locked into the idea of more than a pair either. A pair of cool frogs is still plenty. And you'll have all those plants to look at anyway.
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What's the orientation of your tank? If it has a lot more floor space than height, you'll probably want to consider more terrestrial frogs, though I would also argue that the right layout in a more horizontally oriented tank could still work for climbers, if that's the direction in which you're leaning.

How much do you want to see your frogs? Some people enjoy having frogs that they only see on occasion, because it can be the day's highlight to be lucky enough to spot a shy species. Some people prefer bolder frogs, because they like watching their behaviors, and it's easier to monitor their health.

75 gallons is a generous size, and I agree that terribilis would be a good option. Auratus would be another, and they do well in groups, likewise with leucomelas. It's worth mentioning that both also like to climb when given the opportunity. Ameerega like to make long leaps, so a little height in addition to their horizontal space would give them room to move without whacking their heads. With a tank that size, you can let its dimensions guide your choice, and once you choose your species, start thinking about their preferences, so you can build their tank to enable and promote their natural behaviors.
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Good points on orientation, Woodswalker. I was just assuming a standard 75 gallon in horizontal orientation.
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Thanks for all of the advice. I will be having it in a horizontal lay out. I will defiantly look into those sites. I did find the plant section on here and have been going trough and looking at things that I like, there are a lot of plants haha. I would like some frogs that are a little bold, I mean I would like something that I will see but don't necessarily need to see them everyday. Another question that has come to mind is isopods. I have thought about getting 3-4 different species to put in because of how big it is but I don't know what we be a good species to add.
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For isopods I always liked dwarf white. They're small enough to act as an occasional food source for most darts. They also, for me, did the best surviving long term in a vivarium. Seems counter intuitive with the frogs able to eat them but I think they spend the vast majority of their time safely in the substrate.

You can also get some larger varieties. Honestly there are so many out there now I don't really know where I would start myself. The isopod thing has exploded and become a whole hobby unto itself in the last few years.

Whatever you get, start a master culture of each species in containers and then add from those to your vivarium. That way you can always add more in the future if they die out or some out compete others.
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Is there any specific species that would be better suited for a vivarium or are they all about the same? I wasn't sure if there was any or not.
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I have been looking at everything and getting a list started on plants and some possible frog ideas but now I'm struggling with figure out a light. I have seen people talk about the current usa lights and the finnex planted+ and the bio dude brand of led lights (the glow and grow one).
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