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orchidsnfrogs 12-06-2019 04:55 AM

My new juvenile terribilis! Also - ff dust question / smell
 
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These are orange / yellow from Jesse Isaiah on one of the MeWe boards. I love them! And they’re all out and about exploring the tank and eating fruit flies and such already.

One thing - I’ve watched a couple of YouTube videos on dusting the fruit flies but right now I got some of the excess calcium powder (Repashy) into the tank when I’m dumping the flies into the tank and it’s causing the tank to smell, I think. (Excess nutrients) I just dumped a lot of springtails into the tank in an effort to speed the clean up there, but any other tips?

Socratic Monologue 12-06-2019 08:33 PM

Re: My new juvenile terribilis! Also - ff dust question / smell
 
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Originally Posted by orchidsnfrogs (Post 3078494)
I just dumped a lot of springtails into the tank in an effort to speed the clean up there, but any other tips?

Yes, just don't have excess dust in the bottom of the cup if you're a 'dumper'. If you tilt whatever cup the FFs are in, they will crawl toward the opening of the cup, and the powder will stay in the bottom of the cup.

It may take a couple cups (one larger one to dust in, one smaller one to pour dusted FFs into to take over to the viv) -- I use a 32oz yogurt container for dusting, then pour FFs into a 2oz cup (snatch a few from a fast food place that has these out for squirting ketchup into) and dump that into the viv. Save the dust in the bottom of the yogurt container for next time.

Philsuma 12-06-2019 08:35 PM

Re: My new juvenile terribilis! Also - ff dust question / smell
 
powered supplements will never cause a 'smell'

powered supplements, especially calcium are EXCELLENT to occasionally spill into one's vivarium. The attendant microfauna will profusely thank you!

Encyclia 12-06-2019 08:48 PM

Re: My new juvenile terribilis! Also - ff dust question / smell
 
I would be surprised if the smell was coming from the excess supplement. However, the white is pretty ugly, so I try to keep excess supplement to a minimum (philsuma is right, though, that the microfauna can benefit from it if it's on the substrate). Impossible sometimes because some of the white will bounce off the flies when they hit and in some of my tanks the flies deposit some on the glass as they make their bee-line to the top of the tank.

SM, am I understanding that you are using the same dust multiple times? If so, I don't recommend that. For one thing, unless you are refrigerating your 32 oz container between feedings, the dust in there from last time is exposed to the air at temps that makes it go bad eventually. No idea how fast, but if you are doing this every feeding, there could be some pretty old (and larger-particled, see below) dust in there over time. More importantly, though, any dust is not perfectly uniform and the smallest particles are the ones that stick to the flies the easiest. Even when you add new dust each time, you are still mixing it with the old, larger particles which means that you aren't getting as much of a coating of dust as you might be. This maybe no issue since maybe our frogs are getting plenty of supplementation regardless, but I would guess it adds to inconsistency and, at worst, you may not be getting as much supplement to your frogs as you thought you were. On the other hand, it maybe that my grasp of the English language has yet again failed me and you aren't doing what I thought you were :-)

philsuma's comment reminded me that instead of rolling the dust forward, I usually just dump the excess into one of my isopod cultures.

Mark

Philsuma 12-06-2019 09:56 PM

Re: My new juvenile terribilis! Also - ff dust question / smell
 
every bit of 'expired' calcium and some vitamins goes into my 'master FF media' 20 gallon food bucket.

Socratic Monologue 12-06-2019 10:17 PM

Re: My new juvenile terribilis! Also - ff dust question / smell
 
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Originally Posted by Encyclia (Post 3078544)
SM, am I understanding that you are using the same dust multiple times?

Two or three times at the most. If I overdust noticeably on one feeding, I usually don't add more to the dusting cup next time. If there are dead flies in there that I missed the last time, I dump it all out, too. I also wash the cup out every few feedings, since the fine layer that sticks to the sides is a ladder for escapees. :)


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