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Old 11-06-2019, 08:06 PM
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I have recently setup a vivarium with a couple of dart frogs. This was a relative spontaneous decision. I have run aquariums of various sizes over the years and we have been discussing owning reptiles/amphibians for a while.

In my setup, I have hydroballs in the bottom, using the coconut fibre as a substrate (separated by a barrier) and covered with moss and leaves. I have a small pump that runs water up the back of the vivarium which then runs down the front of the backing (cork round) and drips down onto the ground. This obvioulsy keeps the substrate pretty moist. Currently I have some springtails in the substrate and looking to add some isopods. I am also about to add some new plants to the vivarium.

I have read in some places that says the coconut fibre is a good choice for a substrate. In other places I have read that it tends to start rotting over time and needs to be replaced. Some suggest that ABG mix is really what should be used. I am also reading in here that having a layer of moss on top the substrate is not a good idea either.

My question is, should I bite the bullet now and replace the coconut fibre with some ABG mix? Or should I just leave everything as is? Should I get rid of the moss and just have a layer of leaves?

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Old 11-06-2019, 08:25 PM
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Welcome to the board, PVAD. My opinion is that you should do both. There will never be a better time to switch to ABG. Pure coco fiber will end up being a quagmire, especially if you have water running into your substrate. The moss layer will make things even worse in terms of retaining too much moisture.

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I agree get rid of both while its easy. Ive had Tincs in the past that had their feet rot off due to the constant wet spag
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I agree get rid of both while its easy. Ive had Tincs in the past that had their feet rot off due to the constant wet spag
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Yeah, Coco is probably the worst. If you can't get your hands on abg, at the very least a specialized "jungle"mix or something like that will serve you better. I have a brand that still drains very well, 2 years later.
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I appreciate the feedback. Thanks,
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Yeah, Coco is probably the worst. If you can't get your hands on abg, at the very least a specialized "jungle"mix or something like that will serve you better. I have a brand that still drains very well, 2 years later.
Which brand is that? It would be great to have a commercial option even it it might be expensive.

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I made the coco husk mistake myself on my first viv and will never do it again. Started to rot and didn't drain properly. I would defineatly use abg or something similar.
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