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Old 03-02-2006, 09:31 PM
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I built my own viv and have had it up and running for over a month now to get everything stable. I've been reading posts on this site since Nov and have used the search function as well. I have found out a lot of usefull information, however when it comes to frog selection, I am finding it difficult to select a species that will work for my conditions. Trial and Error is not fair to the frogs or my wallet, so I'd like to borrow your experience.

I have a ~66 gallon cube tank. Half the foot print is a shallow water feature that I would minimize if I had it all to do again.

Temps are stable 78' days 73-74' nights. We keep our house at 65 so a heat lamp is being used and I have some temp control.

Humidity is stable at 80% I have 3 drips on the back wall and a misting system in addition to the water feature. I have otained and maintained 90%+ before.

Currently lightly planted and waiting to see how these plants fill in before additional planting.

I'll try and post some pics later tonight.

I just recieved my first FF cultures from Ed's and plan on practicing culturing them for a few weeks just to make sure I have all the bugs worked out. (sorry couldnt resist the pun)

I do not have a preference on species as I find all PDF's amazing and I am sure I will diversify as my knowledge grows. Again, my main concern is the frogs well being.

My question is: what species should I start with in this situation?

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Old 03-02-2006, 09:38 PM
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Honestly, I need pics to help you. If your terrarium is setup with a more arboreal style, then D. imitator or D. ventrimaculatus are great beginner frogs that are arboreal. If the tank is setup with more a terrestrial feel, then pretty much all the big frogs make good first pets, i.e. D. azureus, auratus, tinctorious, P. terribilis, P. bicolor...

Post some pics, and maybe we could narrow it down even more for ya.
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D. azureus, auratus, tinctorious

i suggest the above
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I think I got this posting pics figured out
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Okay, judging by your picture, I would stick with the larger terrestrial species... azureus, tinctorius, leucomelas yada yada yada.

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thank you frogtofall.

that was the information that I was looking for.
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yes, i agree with the larger frog recommendation, i would also add some more plants regardless.
Also, if you keep the water level shallow enough, and put some rocks and driftwood in it, the frogs may venture into it occasionally.
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You might want to think about some aquatic plants too. Some java moss might be nice as well. Just my thoughts.
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One thing to keep in mind that you want to select a frog that does well in groups. Azureus and tinctorius are awesome frogs but they tend to not do well in groups, especially with more than one female present. Leucs and auratus do well in groups but many forms of auratus run on the shy side. Thumbnails such as vents and imis do well in groups but aren't usually recommended as first frogs.

One other frog you might want to consider is tricolor though I will readily admit I'm biased.

Good luck and keep asking questions. Nice setup btw.

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Good point Bill.. Since you have over 60 gallons, you will probably want a small group of frogs, so choosing Auratus o Leucomelas would a good choice. Just my opinion, Leucs are awesome!

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If you want a largish, "beginner" frog that can be kept in groups and is more likely to be out and about, you should also consider some of the Phyllobates species: terribilis, bicolor and aurotaenia. All are relatively hardy as well as easily found, and do well in groups.
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