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Old 06-30-2020, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: Ethics of keeping legally questionable frogs

Originally Posted by Organics View Post
1. Hire people to breed various animals that are both in high demand and at the highest risk(lowest population numbers). It doesn’t need to be some crazy fancy facility, I’ve seen operations with people raising Pumilio(as well lizards, turtles, etc)in paddock style farming much like you would raise a small group of chickens.
2. This generates jobs as well as contributes to GDP, while using officers(whatever the appropriate law enforcement agency) is all cost with the only benefit being preservation of natural resources. Obviously preservation of species diversity, and beauty of natural resources has value we just haven’t found a effective way to price this higher than the value of destroying it(smuggling to extinction in the wild, deforestation).

Shaming people who own illegal animals is hardly a effective strategy. Sure you might feel good about yourself for being “morally better” but it does little to alter demand and isn’t a legitimate solution to the issue(not calling anyone out we all have our stick, be it this or that, simply pointing out what I see).
Though I haven't looked into it, there are citations in the big 'illegal frogs' thread to studies that disprove the idea that captive breeding reduces wild collection much. Though not smuggling, exactly, it took a radical oversaturation of the ball python market, with attendant problems, to put a serious dent in imports. The issue of imported O. pumilio in the face of captive breeding has been raised here, too.

I don't know if I agree that peer pressure ("shaming people") can't/doesn't reduce demand. I mean, when we all started shaming people about wearing parachute pants as the '80s wore on, the demand went way down.
I think I could turn and live with animals, they are so placid and self-contain'd.

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