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Old 06-30-2020, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: Ethics of keeping legally questionable frogs

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Originally Posted by minorhero View Post
Heh, everything I have said in this thread is applicable specifically to the question posed by the OP. You keep trying to widen the scope to levels where my statements are no longer applicable. Seriously though, asking you point blank, if next week Brazil said blue galacs are legal to export, is there a moral issue now with buying a legally exported blue galac?
You were the first to widen the scope, implicitly permitting it:

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Ah but what does it mean when you say "moral". A dictionary would define it as concerning right and wrong behavior.
Answer to the point blank question: no, there isn't any moral issue then since the only problem with the not-legally exported frogs is the 'not-legally exported' part. You weren't asking this before, though (your examples were of the frogs smuggled before the hypothetical change in export policy, and also of hypothetical frogs of mixed smuggled and legal descent, as far as I can see even after a reread). Also, the link between "morality and the law itself" in this particular case cannot hold, unless you also hold that the moral fact of the matter is internally contradictory (not just an internal tension, but actually a contradiction), since the laws applicable to the matter are in conflict (CITES says they are importable, Lacey says they aren't) -- that simply isn't a sensible claim to make.

Most importantly, most of my ire was directed at the concurrent incompatible and frankly dangerous (see the world and its history for examples) claims that morality is subjective, except when it isn't.
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