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Old 06-30-2020, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: Ethics of keeping legally questionable frogs

Originally Posted by Encyclia View Post
However, there is little doubt in my mind that Blue Galacs (and so many before them) arrived here through smuggling. What I think I know based on the other thread is that Blue Galacs were described in 2012 and were smuggled not long after. We can be sure that they were smuggled because Brazil doesn't allow their animals out of the country. Is any of that in dispute?
This point can be made even clearer. The appeal to some blanket practice by Brazil, although mostly true, doesn't need to be made (since at least one poster has taken the fact that Brazil does legally export commercial WC aquatics to be a counterargument, and also it is a fact that Brazil does export a few CB native herp species [mostly Chelonoidis carbonarius)]; the CITES export records show no live galactonotus exports from Brazil at all during the years the blue morph was discovered and introduced to the commercial trade, and this more specific and documented fact is enough to show that blue galacs are entirely of smuggled origin.

Thanks for opening the discussion, Mark.
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