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Old 11-18-2008, 02:41 AM
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Default Re: Intermedius Lines

I for one am not going to throw all my imitator into one pot because they are all imitator. For many reasons, one is I am an old fart in this hobby, and all these lines/races/morphs whatever you want to call them; have been preserved for 20 years or so. Are we going to pool all the anthonyi, mainland pumilios, tincts, galacts, histrionicus, sylvaticus all together because they come from the same area. What about vents, pictus, femoralis, trivs, or other frogs that encompass larger ranges over multiple countries? Most of the people on this board haven't been in the dart frog hobby for even a decade yet, you didn't see all the frogs that used to come in, with no site data and you were lucky if the wholesalers or jobbers could even tell you where the shipment came from, plus in many cases there were frogs from multiple countries on one shipment, borders and CITES were not so strict or organized back then. There were tons of variation in just trivs from various importations, usually thrown in as filler on shipments. In the case of imitator we know they all come from Peru, but we don't know exactly where and what if any barriers separated the populations we still hold on to. We just don't know. What benefit does it hold to hodgepodge them? If you work with any of the lines you can still enjoy the variation of the species. Plus what do we do with the pumpkin orange ones that are on Dendrobates.org???? Just put em' in with the green imis, after plopping down your cash for "orange" ones, probably not.

One great reason to keep all the "old" lines clean is to NOT pollute the known lines we have from Understory and Inibico. This makes the Taxon Management Group's role more important to the frog community. We can manage the "unknown origin" lines of imitator for the hobby and focus on the Cainarachi Valley morph for ISIS and the higher level of genetic purity that is needed for conservation.

Just more fodder for this thread
Eric
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