Import numbers!

Dendrobatid · #1 (**permalink**) 04-02-2011, 08:54 AM

Wow! I'm sure some of you have seen this. I'm pretty shocked at the total number of species and individuals being imported and who's importing them. Really made me think more about conservation..

Animal imports

pl259 · #2 (**permalink**) 04-02-2011, 11:27 AM

Interesting site. Thanks for sharing.

I see there were still a lot of Pumilio imported last year. Looks close to 1200.

Those are the biggest concern for me. It's been like that for several years now.

Dendrobatid · #3 (**permalink**) 04-02-2011, 03:47 PM

Yeah I knew that quite a few of these species were imported. I just didn't realize that the number of individuals within those species were so high. Also the wording used to describe the source "Breeding, ranching or other source". What do they mean by "other source" ? In my opinion "Ranching" often means that the animals are collected out of the wild and placed in a holding facility that is called a "Ranch". This had been a problem with a number of herp species. Another word "Farmed" carries the same situation as far as I'm concerned.

JJuchems · #4 (**permalink**) 04-02-2011, 04:37 PM

The site is old and has been discussed in another thread. It has not been updated (2010 numbers) as it was created in response to the python issues (little girls death and invasive species in FL).

I have heard the rumor that Panama is shutting down commercial exports from a few reliable sources. Like I said a rumor. I was told the shipment this week was small, only around 25 mancreek plus Cauchero, El Dorado, and Cristobal.

james67 · #5 (**permalink**) 04-02-2011, 04:48 PM

why do we still import x. laevis ? would you like a side of Bd with that order?

all dart #s seemed pretty small to me. even 1200 pumilio from, lets say, 10 locations in the last year is only 120 of each locale.

looks like the things that were imported most were whites, firebelly, dwarf clawed, and bullfrogs, not in that order

james

Baltimore Bryan · #6 (**permalink**) 04-02-2011, 05:08 PM

I thought it was interesting that there were quite a few histos from Georgia and Germany within the last 3-4 years imported. I am also concerned with the number of pumilio being collected, but hopefully it is small enough to not cause problems.
Bryan

JJuchems · #7 (**permalink**) 04-02-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by james67

all dart #s seemed pretty small to me. even 1200 pumilio from, lets say, 10 locations in the last year is only 120 of each locale.

looks like the things that were imported most were whites, firebelly, dwarf clawed, and bullfrogs, not in that order

james

These are US numbers only, you are not seeing Asia or Europe import numbers. You are also comparing apples to oranges on the number of offspring when comparing White's, Firebelly, and the other species.

Dendrobatid · #8 (**permalink**) 04-02-2011, 05:20 PM

Quite often illegal frogs are brought in under the species name of legal frogs. It is very difficult for officials to get a handle on this, a lot of species look very similar.

edwardsatc · #9 (**permalink**) 04-02-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by james67

why do we still import x. laevis ? would you like a side of Bd with that order?

Good question! Seems rather silly considering how easy it is to produce thousands of these with a bit of HCG.

In my lab, we produce thousands of eggs and tads on a weekly basis.

Brotherly Monkey · #10 (**permalink**) 04-02-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by edwardsatc

Good question! Seems rather silly considering how easy it is to produce thousands of these with a bit of HCG.

In my lab, we produce thousands of eggs and tads on a weekly basis.

HCG?

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