Summersi fantastica,and imitator intermedius

[stu&shaz]

Guys some recent reading has got me more than a little confused.Are there 3 separate species with a similar appearance or 2.until a short while ago i thought the frogs from the fantactica group were reclassified as summersi,an articel in dendrobatidea nederlande seems to contradict this, will someone put me out of my misery please and clear this up for me.
thanks in advance
Stu

[Pepbill]

Tagging along, was confused also.

[frogparty]

summersii USED TO BE banded fantastica.
Imitator intermedius was never classified as a fantastica

[cairo11]

I actually saw a euro ad selling r. Fantastica "yumbatos" . Im not up todate with the ranitomeya re-classifications or even to familiar with sites, but is yumbatos fant a new site or caniriachi???

[frogparty]

someone in the EU is selling "varadero fants" which are orange/blue and look much like varadero imis, only better. Not sure if those are yumbatos or not

[Pumilo]

Intermedius is an Imitator. Banded Intermedius is the same thing as Banded Imitator. The most current name would be Banded Imitator. Yellow Fantasticus, or Banded Fantasticus is the same as Summersii. Some pics of both, back to back in the same thread, can be found here. My upcoming thumbnails!!!
That thread also discusses some of the differences. I have both and they look identical unless you are specifically looking for differences.

[cairo11]

My mistake- peruvianfrogimport.com is selling them....I guess theyre euro-based?

[frogparty]

Those look like Caynarichi on that site

[Mantellaprince20]

Originally Posted by frogparty

someone in the EU is selling "varadero fants" which are orange/blue and look much like varadero imis, only better. Not sure if those are yumbatos or not

"veradero fants" are the morph of fantastica that is imitated by R. imitator "veradero".

Summersi has been reclassified into it's own species, R. summersi, and I have no idea what yumbato's fants are.

Ed Parker

[frogparty]

Originally Posted by Mantellaprince20

"veradero fants" are the morph of fantastica that is imitated by R. imitator "veradero".

Summersi has been reclassified into it's own species, R. summersi, and I have no idea what yumbato's fants are.

Ed Parker

I kow thats what varadero imis imitate, I just dont know if theres another morph name besides "orange/blue" or varadero.

Look at peruvian frog imports....yumbatos look A LOT LIKE caynarichi. Even though I cant translate the entire site on my phone, I do see Mark Peppers name pop up on that page too.