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Old 04-28-2011, 02:41 PM
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What is a good creeping miniature plant that likes to adhere to a limestone surface?
I made a planter out of limestone sheets for the viv and I want to put a living jacket on it.
It will be in an area that is about 50 to 60 percent humidity and within 12 inches of the lights.
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I would try some creeping fig. Ive seen it grow up concrete walls and stone surfaces at the san diego zoo, so its probably not that picky at all. There are also plenty of lithophytic orchids that grow on nothing BUT limestone cliff faces. I don't know if thats your thing, but they wouldn't make a "green screen" nearly as fast as the creeping fig.
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i second lithophytic orchids, since they, as mentioned, have evolved to grow specifically on rock.

there are plenty of lithophytes that arent orchids as well. there are a few utricularia species that may do well. u. nephrophylla,u. andongensis, u. aureomaculata, u. garrettii, u. furcellata, u. geminiloba, u. kumaonensis, and u. striatula. some may be easier to find than others.


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I know some of the true Pothos species are lithophytes. They can be difficult to obtain however.
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I would try some creeping fig. Ive seen it grow up concrete walls and stone surfaces at the san diego zoo, so its probably not that picky at all. There are also plenty of lithophytic orchids that grow on nothing BUT limestone cliff faces. I don't know if thats your thing, but they wouldn't make a "green screen" nearly as fast as the creeping fig.
I'd think I'd rather try an orchid.
I actually have a good creeping one---mediocalcar decoratum, but I'm not sure if it's one that is a lithophyte. I have it in ABG mix.

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i second lithophytic orchids, since they, as mentioned, have evolved to grow specifically on rock.

there are plenty of lithophytes that arent orchids as well. there are a few utricularia species that may do well. u. nephrophylla,u. andongensis, u. aureomaculata, u. garrettii, u. furcellata, u. geminiloba, u. kumaonensis, and u. striatula. some may be easier to find than others.

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Thanks, James. I need something that will take some drying out occasionally. Don't all utricularia require perpetual high moisture in order to thrive?

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I know some of the true Pothos species are lithophytes. They can be difficult to obtain however.
Got any names? I like plants that are small and also difficult to obtain.
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mediocalcar decoratum isnt a lithophyte, but it might still grow on it.
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If you can get your hands on it, Begonia lyneciorum (Spelling?) was discovered growing on a limestone cave entrance.


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If you can get your hands on it, Begonia lyneciorum (Spelling?) was discovered growing on a limestone cave entrance.


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It's spelled begonia lyniceorum--I'm searching for it right now, dang you.
(Update---found it, but I don't think it will work. I could get it with some doing, but I don't want it.)

I already have a similar species planted in the pot---conchifolia var. rubrimacula---I think I will want something really small-leaves and with gripping roots (like vines and broms have).

There are others that grow on or around limestone---amphioxus being one---but none others that I know of which are clingy.

So---anyone have exp. with any really dwarfed-out lithophytic orchids?
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You could probably get some dwarf Bulbophyllums or Dendrobiums to do well, since these like to dry out between waterings more than the pleurothallids or Mediocalcar do. B. tingabarinum is a reliable growin mini bulbo with flowers bigger than the plant. D. oligophyllum is currently my favorite viv orchid, and has been blooming NONSTOP for me for over three years in my leuc viv. If you arent hung up on species, look into some of the smaller bulbophyllum hybrids, since the hybrids will bloom multiple times a year for you.
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You could probably get some dwarf Bulbophyllums or Dendrobiums to do well, since these like to dry out between waterings more than the pleurothallids or Mediocalcar do. B. tingabarinum is a reliable growin mini bulbo with flowers bigger than the plant. D. oligophyllum is currently my favorite viv orchid, and has been blooming NONSTOP for me for over three years in my leuc viv. If you arent hung up on species, look into some of the smaller bulbophyllum hybrids, since the hybrids will bloom multiple times a year for you.
If you have a division you could trade, I have some more rare begonias.

I did see a Bulbophyllum on Ebay recently, maybe I can try that one.
How would I mount one on the rock?
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I don't have any divisions to trade right now. Letting all my bulbos get as overgrown as possible. Same for my D. oligophyllum, I can NEVER have enough of that orchid. As for mounting, shove a piece into a crevice on the edge of the limestone, and make sure it gets watered 3x a week. Many bulbos are HUGE. Make sure you get a mini if you are getting one from ebay. Otherwise, try Andys.
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I don't have any divisions to trade right now. Letting all my bulbos get as overgrown as possible. Same for my D. oligophyllum, I can NEVER have enough of that orchid. As for mounting, shove a piece into a crevice on the edge of the limestone, and make sure it gets watered 3x a week. Many bulbos are HUGE. Make sure you get a mini if you are getting one from ebay. Otherwise, try Andys.
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I don't have any divisions to trade right now. Letting all my bulbos get as overgrown as possible. Same for my D. oligophyllum, I can NEVER have enough of that orchid. As for mounting, shove a piece into a crevice on the edge of the limestone, and make sure it gets watered 3x a week. Many bulbos are HUGE. Make sure you get a mini if you are getting one from ebay. Otherwise, try Andys.
Also, I see minutissimum, frostii and wightii. Do bulbophyllums generally require a dormant period? Are there any of these which do not?
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Those are all good choices. They don't need a true dormancy, but a drier winter provides more consistent blooming. I give all my vivs a drier winter anyways, so its not an inconvenience for me.Misting one or 2x a week. Helps cycle the frogs
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I also have success with B. lasiochilum, B. wendlandii, and B. appendiculatum in vivs. I also have some B. plumatum I can't wait to try out. My favorite orchid ever, but I only have seedlings, so I have to play the waiting game before they are big enough to risk dividing
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