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Old 08-23-2007, 12:33 PM
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I need help, again, with my first vivarium. I recently read the post "Growing Moss?" but that was a little different question.

My question is what is the best way to apply moss to a brand new tank, and best way to get it established.

The type of moss I want to grow is native to this area. It is either rock cap moss, or fern moss. I think is is rock cap moss. I plan to grow this all over my tank.

If people do not recommend I use this moss, please let me know otherwise, and advise what type I should use. I want a low growing moss. Thanks.
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This discussion in an ongoing one, but let me give you my thoughts.

1st - if you bring moss in from the outside, you are also bringing in everything that is living in there, along with potential insect eggs.

2nd - you are living in the northern hemisphere - and putting it into a tank which will not experience a "cold & freezing" period.

3rd - if you look any pictures of native habitat of the frogs you are planning on caring for, you will not find moss - but leaf litter.

So, why are you considering using moss? A good alternative is using an aquatic plant called riccia. Many have used it and it will not die in the conditions of the aquarium. I would use riccia & a combination of leaf litter in my tank.

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If you like moss, black jungle has a great tropical moss that is low growing, spreads fairly quickly, and seems to grow on just about anything. It's a little pricey, though. Hope that helps.
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3rd - if you look any pictures of native habitat of the frogs you are planning on caring for, you will not find moss - but leaf litter.
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a PDF in is NATIVE habitat of PERU - Note the Moss on the rock as well as the leaf litter. Moss naturally grows all over the world. Even where PDF's live in the wild.

Moss, in my opinion, is pleasing to look at and if planted right, will showcase your other plants. But the argument of #3. ill researched and not a good one.
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Yes, moss does grow all over the world, but if you take some time to look at pictures and images taken of pdfs in their native habitats - you will see something lacking, and that is moss.

Moss is something we add for our visual enjoyment...

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Yes, moss does grow all over the world, but if you take some time to look at pictures and images taken of pdfs in their native habitats - you will see something lacking, and that is moss.

Moss is something we add for our visual enjoyment...

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If you look at the photo I posted, That IS a PDF in it's native habitat - not a viv.
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a PDF in is NATIVE habitat of PERU - Note the Moss on the rock as well as the leaf litter. Moss naturally grows all over the world. Even where PDF's live in the wild.

Moss, in my opinion, is pleasing to look at and if planted right, will showcase your other plants. But the argument of #3. ill researched and not a good one.
Are you trying to say this is a picture taken in peru of a native frog on moss?

I can attest that I have not personally been to South America - but my friends who have - make the comment there isn't moss growing all over the ground like we like to put in our tanks.

Photographers who visit South America often stage photos by having a spotter to chase after the frog if it takes off and a nice location with good lighting and backgrounds for the images.

Do a search on the importance of leaf litter in tanks and you might choose to set up your tank differently.

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Did you personally take the photo?

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Yes, moss does grow all over the world, but if you take some time to look at pictures and images taken of pdfs in their native habitats - you will see something lacking, and that is moss.

Moss is something we add for our visual enjoyment...

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If you look at the photo I posted, That IS a PDF in it's native habitat - not a viv.
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I'm sorry, this is a you are right situation as you are quite firm on your opinion of the natural landscapes of a jungle environment.

The photo is from a collection of photos taken in Peru 2006 by a group of people wanting to revisit a friends place of birth.

http://people.uleth.ca/~holzmann/peru/ the collection of photos (by people on vacation and not looking to "stage" a shot) Pure vacation armatures.

The photos "YOU" see most are in the "jungle" section. look down at the animal section

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Note the moss on the tree

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The photos you mainly see are photos like these:

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And

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And you DON'T see moss on those. But to denounce moss in the area based on "some" photos you have seen is not matter-of-fact.
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There is a difference is North American and Floridian cushion moss and the moss you are pointing out in the images.

You should really read up more on the effects of harvesting cushion moss on the environment. That is the moss that was being discussed in this thread.

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I'm sorry, this is a you are right situation as you are quite firm on your opinion of the natural landscapes of a jungle environment.

The photo is from a collection of photos taken in Peru 2006 by a group of people wanting to revisit a friends place of birth.

http://people.uleth.ca/~holzmann/peru/ the collection of photos (by people on vacation and not looking to "stage" a shot) Pure vacation armatures.

The photos "YOU" see most are in the "jungle" section. look down at the animal section

Click the image to open in full size.

Note the moss on the tree

Click the image to open in full size.


The photos you mainly see are photos like these:

Click the image to open in full size.

And

Click the image to open in full size.

And you DON'T see moss on those. But to denounce moss in the area based on "some" photos you have seen is not matter-of-fact.
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