Large Vivarium Construction

[Energy]

Originally Posted by fivecardskane

So you probably get this question all the time, but I am new to the PDF scene and was wondering how many different species of frogs do you have in there? I hear all the time you shouldn't mix the different species but I had a friend with a 72Lx12Wx18H tank with about 6 species together. He had about 18 frogs and was constantly selling off the froglets. He has since moved away and I have lost contact so I'm really looking in to every site trying to get started. Any info on how many you can fit in a 55g would be appreciated.

Now on to the important statement, your tank is BOSS. That's all there is to say.

Thanks for the compliments. I currently don't have any PDF's at all inside the system. I have some tincs and aurutus fattening up in a 55 gallon getting ready to go in. I am hoping they are big and strong enough to go into the soon soon. I realize my tank is not necessarily PDF safe. The water presents a very real hazard and therefore I have been waiting with my frogs to get a little size on them. On the other hand I have hiked the mountains and Jungles of Costa Rica many, many times and own over a hundred acres of rainforest in Agujas adjacent to Corcovado national Park. I have a river that abuts my land on one side and a small gold mining stream that cuts through my land. I have found many frogs in this area with one exception. All the Aurutus I have found in Costa Rica have been near the tops of the mountains in very hilly/rugged terrain, far from a water source.

[Energy]

Originally Posted by carbonetc

Constantly selling potentially hybridized frogs? I think I just heard 20 board members' heads explode.

Or maybe you mean a dart frog species mixed with a tree frog species, etc.?

Let's not turn this into one of those threads.

Originally Posted by fivecardskane

No they were all dart frogs. This was about ten years ago, I was 14 and he was going out with my cousin, that's how I met him. Obviously the views on hybridized frogs has changed dramatically, cause I remember people actually waiting to buy frogs from him. If it matters at all, his tank was set up with physical boundaries, but nothing to actively separate the frogs, just large logs, pools of water etc. The frogs kept to their own most of the time, except for feeding, then they were constantly crossing into each others "territory". He also had a couple of geckos, although these were nocturnal and anoles, which kept mostly to themselves at the top of the tank.

I used to have pictures of the tank, but those have since been lost in the fold.

I used to stare at that tank for hours and I was hoping to recreate that in a home tank myself. Which is why I was asking about minimum tank size for housing several species. I am a "noob" to the PDF and I definitely do not want to do anything to jeopardize the hobby, so I'll take all the help I can get.

Thanks for clarifying, if you need any help or advice just ask here or send me a PM. I would be glad to help.

[nathan]

How are the discus doing? Hows Kennys discus as far as pricing?

[fivecardskane]

That is awesome! I'm just trying to get started (I feel like a broken record) and I saw the thread, got interested and now I'm starting to think 55g is too small to house multiple species, which is a shame. Think I'll have to brow beat my girlfriend in to letting me have lots of tanks for the family. She isn't too thrilled with my hobby. Ever since I was attacked by a rather large Nile Monitor, she has been actively getting rid of my kids one at a time. I currently own two iguanas, three ball pythons, a peach throat monitor, a couple of Pacman frogs, and one very sweet black tree monitor named Louis.

I think the dart frogs might push her over the edge. But I can hope she lets me get them, I mean, they'll be in a tank haha . Keep me posted on how they do in your jungle.

[Energy]

Originally Posted by nathan

How are the discus doing? Hows Kennys discus as far as pricing?

The discus are doing well. Eating and pairing off. For what you get Kenny's prices are good. I have never seen, in person, discus as nice as these at a pet store or anywhere else for that matter.

[Energy]

Originally Posted by fivecardskane

That is awesome! I'm just trying to get started (I feel like a broken record) and I saw the thread, got interested and now I'm starting to think 55g is too small to house multiple species, which is a shame. Think I'll have to brow beat my girlfriend in to letting me have lots of tanks for the family. She isn't too thrilled with my hobby. Ever since I was attacked by a rather large Nile Monitor, she has been actively getting rid of my kids one at a time. I currently own two iguanas, three ball pythons, a peach throat monitor, a couple of Pacman frogs, and one very sweet black tree monitor named Louis.

I think the dart frogs might push her over the edge. But I can hope she lets me get them, I mean, they'll be in a tank haha . Keep me posted on how they do in your jungle.

Well most people on this board are against mixing any species, at best I have heard some people say two species in one tank. They like to break them into arboreal species mixed with terrestrial species at best.

[Viaje]

Still looking great Energy! I'm not sure about the pygmy chameleons though, they're known pretty widely as being, well... clumsy. on chameleonforums.com (I'd recommend you ask their opinion first) I've seen a lot of people ask about keeping a pyg in an enclosure with water, and each time the keepers have decided that they would all almost inevitably drown.

They're fascinating and adorable little guys, but probably not meant to be around water.

http://www.chameleonforums.com/pygmy-paludarium-22797/

[vivbulider]

post some pics of the discus in the tank

[Energy]

Originally Posted by Viaje

Still looking great Energy! I'm not sure about the pygmy chameleons though, they're known pretty widely as being, well... clumsy. on chameleonforums.com (I'd recommend you ask their opinion first) I've seen a lot of people ask about keeping a pyg in an enclosure with water, and each time the keepers have decided that they would all almost inevitably drown.

They're fascinating and adorable little guys, but probably not meant to be around water.

Pygmy Paludarium - Chameleon Forums

Well I read through some of that- what a debate! It seems that no matter what a person does their will always be conflicting views.

[Energy]

Originally Posted by vivbulider

post some pics of the discus in the tank

I will -just give me a little time.