New EpiWeb Drip Walls (combined order?) - Page 2

davecalk · #11 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by UmbraSprite

Hey all...

IIS Background Sheets
mm
400 x 500 $39.99
500 x 500 $46.99
500 x 1000 $67.99
Larger sizes up to 1200 x 1400 available on request

15.7 inches x 19.7 inches = $39.99
19.7 inches x 19.7 inches = $46.99
19.7 inches x 39.3 inches = $67.99

Wow, the branches are really cool, but the cost of the sheets are super expensive.

I am right now communicating with a company about getting buffing / scrubbing sheets that are larger and are less than 1/3 of the price.

These are the sizes that I should be able to get.

14 x 20 inches
14 x 28 inches
14 x 32 inches

I haven't gotten a conformation on the final cost yet, but they should be under $20 per sheet.

On frognet we have been having an excellent discussion about these pads and about how safe the plastics would be in the long run.

The research shows and general consensus is that they are completely safe to use. Basically this is the same type of material used in EpiWeb.

Dave

UmbraSprite · #12 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 02:48 PM

Dave,

Keep in mind these come with the plumbing for the drip walls and my prices are a shot in the dark.

That said...just for the normal sheets the price is still expensive. When I do these orders 40% of the cost is shipping from Europe to here and customs fees. If we were in Europe the prices would be drastically different.

One good thing is as far as I can tell the prices for the drip wall systems are not much different than the plain sheets as the costs again is in the shipping.

The reason I am so curious about the other material is elimination of the shipping costs would help immensely. I am a little stuck with EpiWeb for the shaped pieces though...although of course we could always stick with natural wood which I do currently.

Chris

UmbraSprite · #13 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 02:52 PM

Oh...one thing I am still exploring but really like is the following. I didn't mention it on the photo but these are not misting...they are magnets. You can attach pieces magnetically for easy removal.

rpj211 · #14 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 03:15 PM

Put me down for 100 g of the moss mix please

Richard

davecalk · #15 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmbraSprite

Dave,

Keep in mind these come with the plumbing for the drip walls and my prices are a shot in the dark.

That said...just for the normal sheets the price is still expensive. When I do these orders 40% of the cost is shipping from Europe to here and customs fees. If we were in Europe the prices would be drastically different.

One good thing is as far as I can tell the prices for the drip wall systems are not much different than the plain sheets as the costs again is in the shipping.

The reason I am so curious about the other material is elimination of the shipping costs would help immensely. I am a little stuck with EpiWeb for the shaped pieces though...although of course we could always stick with natural wood which I do currently.

Chris

Hey Chris,

I hope you didn't get the feeling that I was complaining about you or the things that you offer to the hobby. If I came off that way, then I truly apologize. It was not my intent at all. Helping set up orders for people is a valuable service and I respect what you are trying to do for folks in the hobby.

I was pretty shocked when I calculated the size of the sheets and saw the overall sheet prices. I have looked at EpiWeb' s website and they really do have some cool stuff, but some of the costs were literally out of this world.

When I read you original post I thought that I read that these prices did not include shipping. I realize that I had misunderstood what you had said when I went back and re-read the original post and saw that you said that the prices were not set in stone because the shipping hadn't been calculated as of the time of the post.

Dave

chuckpowell · #16 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 05:40 PM

I've worked with this stuff in my greenhouse and it isn't all that the ads imply. It doesn't hold a bit of water. Its plastic and the water mostly runs through. You'll be running the misters quite a lot to get anything to grow on this stuff. Just a warning.

Best,

Chuck

UmbraSprite · #17 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 06:13 PM

Chuck,

That is exactly the point of EpiWeb...to not hold water. The original intention was to create a substrate for mounting orchids and broms that would not hold moisture and result in rotting.

Also there is no misting. The system simply circulates water top to bottom through the panel. The branches of course are another story. If broms and orchids on the back wall were your goal you are correct in that misting would be needed although only once daily.

For moss growth or Riccia the flow would be perfect.

Certainly not all things to all people but very good at what it is intended for.

Anyway guys no harm no foul!

Julio · #18 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 06:21 PM

hey Chris,
are you starting to carry this procuct? if so how much is it?

Bananaman · #19 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 07:20 PM

I'd like to place and order and give this stuff a go.

1 x 500x500 sheet
1 x lg branch
1 x module D
100g of the moss mixture

Thanks Chris!

Dendro Dave · #20 (**permalink**) 05-23-2009, 08:19 PM

Can count on me for 100g of the moss mix atleast. I'm always up for some new mosses

Feel free to PM me if i forget about this thread by the time the order comes in!

The rest of the stuff sounds like it could be very useful, unfortunately i just dont have the extra cash for it right now, but its a product i'd definately be interested in down the road, if anyone were to carry it regularly in the states.