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Old 03-17-2009, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: Constructing a Euopean type Vivarium Step by Step

Has anyone been able to find E track for 1/8" glass in the states? Brunner doesn't seem to sell it.

Also, I second JP's question. I'd figure the air flow would be better if the top vent were towards the front.


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Old 03-20-2009, 02:37 PM
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I have a question regarding the vent position. Why is the top vent positioned towards the back of the tank? Wouldn't be better to have it towards the front so a laminar flow of air would keep the front glass condensation-free? What is your (and other members as well) opinion/experience?

The position of the vent is not fixed and can be moved forward to suit relative requirements.

I agree that the vent positioned towards the front would marginally improve the vertical laminar flow across the inside of the front of the vivarium. But in doing so, also in effect set up greater vertical temperature strata or bands within in the vivarium and by doing so also reduces the greater overall air circulation within the vivarium.

Therefore I position my vents further back. I have found that the overall air circulation is improved, which in turn also benefit the plant and result in better plant growth.

Regarding the issue of condensation, as most of the Europeans that used this design also tend to maintain a substantial number of vivariums, we tend to try and main the overall room temperature at the desired level. This alone prevents the condensation.

I do realise that not all of us can afford the space or money to maintain a whole room for frog husbandry and there these individual display vivariums, have to have their air circulation adjusted accordingly.
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Has anyone been able to find E track for 1/8" glass in the states? Brunner doesn't seem to sell it.

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Old 03-21-2009, 09:36 PM
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LOL, I also have a ton of it in my garage too. I purchased mine from Outwater Plastic. Here you go.
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This is so awesome and very easy to follow. You make the directions so clear. But wouldn't it just be cheaper to buy a ready made one? After you purchase all the parts and glass, wouldn't it cost the same or more than buying one already made?

Unless you gutted out an aquarium that you got super cheap, which I may just do. Where do you get glass from? Is it cheaper from a local glass supply company than Home Depot or Lowes?

But couldn't you avoid the gasket and the complicated construction of sliding doors if you had a swing open door, like the Zoomed ones? http://www.petsolutions.com/Zoo-Med-...C40002019.aspx

Or is that a bad idea for frog set ups?

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After many requests regarding, how I go about cutting a curve or arch in the door strut, I put together this brief guide.

I hope that you will find this helpfull.

As an added note, this process can also be used to cut most curves in glass. ;-)


Cutting an Arched Glass Door Strut

These are instructions to cut an arched glass door strut, in a European style vivarium. This same method is used to cut the arch in the back panel of the vivarium when installing a false base.

In order to be able to cut the same curve or arch constantly, it is advised that you use a template.

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As I construct vivariums of different widths, I could cut a separate template for each new width vivarium that I construct, but that would cost me a lot of wasted time.

I designed and made a template that I could adjust to the required width.

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This template is constructed from 6mm Phenolic sheet stock, so it very stable and will warp or be affected by temperature or humidity.

• You may choose to make a one-off template, if you are only going to construct a single vivarium or a few of the same size.
• A template for a one-off can be made from 6mm MDF, which easily cut and sanded to shape.










CUTTING THE ARCH
You will need to work on a stable and flat surface; if the surface is not flat the glass may not shear or be cut as desired.

Cover the work surface with several layers of newspaper. The newspaper serves two important functions.
1. It protects from scratches and stops the glass from sliding around with working.
2. The papers also provide just enough give under the glass, to be able to carry-out this “Cutting” procedure.

• Carefully place your template on your glass strip.
• The template should be aligned in the centre from left to right

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• Press down on the template firmly but gently, to ensure the template does not move.
• Use your class cutter to score a single continuous and consistent line on the inside of the template.

N.B. DO NOT TRY AND SCORE THE LINE TWICE

• You should be left with a single continuous arched line, as below.

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• Turn the section of glass over, so that the scored line now is located on the under side.
• Ensure that there are no foreign objects under the glass or newspaper before proceeding.





N.B. DO NOT RUSH THE FOLLOWING STEP

• Wear gloves.
• Use your thumb and use a firm pressure to push down in the centre of the line. (see location of red dot in diagram below)
• Remember the un-scored side of the glass should be face upward; this is the surface you should applying pressure to.
• The glass will start to split along the score line.
• Slowly push down on the ends of the split and follow the line away from the centre in the direct of the arrows.
• As you work away from the centre, the split will run to the edge of the glass.

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• When the split ahs run the entire length of the line, carefully turn the glass, back over.
• Repeat the above process on the score side of the glass.


• The waste section should now be free of the arch.

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• Using emery cloth or silicone carbide sandpaper, buff all the raw edges of the glass just enough to take off the sharpness
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Thanks Darryl, what kind of success rate should I expect when doing this?
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Hi Mark,

My success rate with this is about 95%, I suggest practicing first.
When I first started I had about a 60% success rate, but this improved greatly once I learnt to control my glass cutter properly. The trick is to have a single smooth and continuous line and use an even pressure from start to finish.
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anyone know where to get black door track here in the US or a European company that woudl ship to the US?
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Hi, im a bit conserned about where the bottom front vent is. Do u know if with that design the water from misting system is getting trough the vent and down the floor?
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