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Old 04-12-2016, 06:57 PM
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I haven't been very active lately as I have had a lot of things taking up my time but I have finally gotten around to building two new 20 gallon tall verts to replace my two existing verts.

Here are a few of the pictures I have captured so far. I have completed the hardscaping and most of the cleanup.

Currently I am printing the cent assemblies which will allow the vents to be fully open, half open, a quarter open or completely closed. I will have pictures of the vent assemblies in the next few days once I finalize the design.

Tanks Drilled - 12 holes in total ( 8 vents, 2 drains, 2 for mistking nozzles)




Mocking up the first tank everything is just balanced in place


Second tank almost finished foaming everything into place.


Both tanks side by side as they will be when they move to my office, cleanup started. I will be covering the sides of the tank where the foam is with contact paper or spray paint to hide the ugly parts.


Closeup tank 1


Closeup tank 2


Thanks for taking a look! I have another thread about this but if anyone has suggestions for lighting I am still trying to decide what to use this time.
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Oh cool, I really like those! Great placement use of the cork rounds... excited to see it progress and get planted!

What frogs are you putting in there?
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:10 PM
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Oh cool, I really like those! Great placement use of the cork rounds... excited to see it progress and get planted!

What frogs are you putting in there?
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One tank will be housing 3 Varaderos, the other will have my Variabilis northerns.
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Old 04-13-2016, 04:25 AM
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Picture of one of the future inhabitants!

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Great start. If you want the option to be able to get the frogs out again, suggestion is to fill the cork rounds with foam or sphagnum, otherwise you'll never catch them without tearing it apart.
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Very nice! I'll be waiting for the final product
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Great start. If you want the option to be able to get the frogs out again, suggestion is to fill the cork rounds with foam or sphagnum, otherwise you'll never catch them without tearing it apart.
I will be filling most of them with plants, some will be left half full to add some hides but none will allow the frogs to get to places they aren't supposed to get. Although in my experience the thumbnails are quite good at finding the small cracks and avoiding being captured!
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Very nice! I'll be waiting for the final product
Thanks! Finished up the vent design last night so I will be printing those over the next few days as well as getting the false bottom installed.
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Old 04-14-2016, 05:01 PM
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Updates

Drainage layer and substrates are in, need to order some more leaf litter.





Here of some pictures of the vent assemblies. They are comprised of 4 pieces that all snap together.









Some shots of the vents being printed.





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That's one hell of a 3d printer :O

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Haha its a Rostock Max V2 with a number of modifications.
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not gonna lie, I saw the vents and got excited thinking you were going to plumb the two tanks together with some clear PVC tubing. Had to go back and read through the plans again



gives me some ideas


looks great so far!
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Old 04-15-2016, 09:02 PM
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Haha that would be neat if I had room for two tanks for one set of frogs. Alas I already have too many tanks in my small office.

I am currently taping the tanks up in preparation for painting the glass to cover the areas with foam and substrate.
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not gonna lie, I saw the vents and got excited thinking you were going to plumb the two tanks together with some clear PVC tubing. Had to go back and read through the plans again



gives me some ideas


looks great so far!
Interesting concept... Maybe a new project
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Interesting concept... Maybe a new project
my bank account says not yet


Nath, are you printing or using any sort of bulkhead for the drains on the bottom, or are you just going to have a waste sump or something?
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Pretty cool but how is it filtered?

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In the past I have used a bulkhead but those required that the water level got to about half an inch before it would start to drain. I don't want as much water sitting in the bottom of the tank this time so I am going to leave the drain holes empty. The tanks will be at a slight incline so that water runs to the back of the tank. I will put some water wicking fabric in the hole which leads to a collection container. This should allow me to have a minimal amount of stagnate water in the bottom of the tank.
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Old 04-28-2016, 04:09 PM
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Finally had some time to make some more progress on the tanks. I have completed the painting of the outside of the tanks to hide the areas with foam showing. Here are some shots of the tanks in progress and finished.









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Over the weekend I finally had a bit more time to work on the tanks. I pulled all the substrate out because I wasn't satisfied with my drainage layer. That has been fixed up and the substrate is back in. I also finished assembling and installing all the vent assemblies. I plan on finishing the front panel early this week and should have the tanks ready to start breaking in shortly.

Here of some pictures of the substrate layers:

The first layer is Matala from Folius that was topped with window screen


The second layer is LDL from NeHerp topped with weed blocker fabric






I cut a mistking bulkhead to create a low profile drainage bulkhead, I use the mistking bulkheads as drainage in my current tanks but they require the water level in the bottom of the tank to get to about 3/4 of an inch before draining. Now the tanks should drain once they have 1/4 or an inch of water.



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I was thinking of creating some vines to come down from the top of the wood in the tanks but I am not sure if it will make the tanks too crowded. I think a few thinner strands might look good.

Anyone have an opinion to sway me one way or another?
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I think the vines would be cool, particularly because once well grown in the background features tend to become obscured with plants (though I think this too has visual appeal). If the vines are in the foreground it will help add depth to the setups long term. I like what you've done with the two sides of the same tree kind of setup, it looks pretty boss so far.
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I think the vines would be cool, particularly because once well grown in the background features tend to become obscured with plants (though I think this too has visual appeal). If the vines are in the foreground it will help add depth to the setups long term. I like what you've done with the two sides of the same tree kind of setup, it looks pretty boss so far.
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Thanks! I have done vines before and really liked them so I am leaning towards making a few I should have just enough leftover silicone / peat.
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You could add them in the future too?

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These are really turning out great! Very clean looking and I love the cork arrangement. Thanks for posting... I'm really looking forward to seeing these planted!
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I could, I normally like to silicone them in place which I wouldn't be able to do once the frogs are in, but I could just place them in later. I think it is probably easier to do it now though before plants start getting in the way.
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These are really turning out great! Very clean looking and I love the cork arrangement. Thanks for posting... I'm really looking forward to seeing these planted!
Thanks! I can't wait to get them planted either. Once I have the hardscape 100% I plan on misting the tanks and working on finding the right balance of mist / ventilation then the fun can begin.

I also still need to figure out how to light them
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Playing around to see what some vines would look like. I need to pick up another tube of silicone to coat them with peatmoss.


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Been quite some time since I posted about these tanks. But I am finally back on track with getting them finished up and by this weekend they should have frogs in them. Here are some pictures right after the first round of planting about 3 months ago. I will take some updated photos as soon as the frogs go in.


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Updated Pics, the frogs are now enjoying their new digs!


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Hey I've been following your thread and curious as to how these tanks are doing. They look fantastic and I really like the vents you made at top. How long did it take you to make them? Are the top vents working out well? How big are those holes? 1.6" ?

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Great time for a bump!

I am also eager to see the progress on this tank!
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Dude, I remember when you were just getting into the hobby, man have you come a long way! Those tanks look awsome

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What clips are those holding the glass front on?

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Hey I've been following your thread and curious as to how these tanks are doing. They look fantastic and I really like the vents you made at top. How long did it take you to make them? Are the top vents working out well? How big are those holes? 1.6" ?
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The tanks are doing well, still growing in but most everything is growing nicely. Each vent assembly takes about an hour to print if you include the fan attachment and 20 minutes or so without the attachment. The holes are ~2 inches in diameter but I will have to double check on that. The vents + fans have been working great, the glass is always fog free and I don't get the build up of algae on the glass I used to get on the last version of these tanks.

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Great time for a bump!

I am also eager to see the progress on this tank!
I agree I will get some updated pictures up tonight or tmrw!

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Thank you! With each new tank I try to fix the short cummings of my previous tanks which are always many. I now am focused on how to create tanks that require the least amount of maintenance which is why I redesigned the door mechanism, latches and vents and fans with these tanks and so far it has been working great!

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The clips are something I designed and 3D printed after attempting to use magnets in the last version of these tanks. The magnets took up more space rusting and falling out in the last tanks so I decided to change to these clips and they are perfect. Some people like have the front on a hinge but I like being able to full remove it as its easier to implement and allows me to really clean it when I want to make the glass like new!

If there is enough interest in the clips I can print a bunch and offer them up for sale ( pretty much just enough to cover shipping ).
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Until I get new full tank shots here are some of the inhabitants having a meeting.

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Update Time

I just recently added some more orchids and I haven't had time to put them in their final places so some tweaking needs to happen but here are the tanks as they stand today. Let me know what you think!







Upper vents with fans:


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Got some more frog shots this morning!





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What orchid is that with the long thin leaves on the right wall?

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